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Feb 2011
3:44pm, 27 Feb 2011
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plodding hippo
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Feb 2011
3:51pm, 27 Feb 2011
23,083 posts
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Hills of Death (HOD)
Nellers a small fact
9 Marathons started
7 finished (3 walk breaks although two of those not fit)
1 binned at mile 15
1 injured at mile 10
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Feb 2011
3:55pm, 27 Feb 2011
8,358 posts
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DeeGee
Are you setting yourself a target time Nellers? Or just aiming to get round?
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Feb 2011
4:34pm, 27 Feb 2011
1,196 posts
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P.E...
I hit this 'wall' on my first one around 17-18 miles, after that i've never really 'hit the wall'. I think the thing is if you pace it right then you'll be fine, just accept that at somepoint you will feel like poo but just keep going and try not to panic. It's all about (for me anyway) doing the training and having the confidence that your pacing is not beyond you.
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Feb 2011
4:44pm, 27 Feb 2011
123 posts
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GeeeM
I hit a tree at the London Ultra last weekend at around mile 29 - still got a graze on my forehead from it 
Only ever hit the wall when cycling, (or - "bonked" as cyclists say) and nearly passed out which wasn't good - but was sorted out by a Boost bar and bottle of lucozade!
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Feb 2011
4:48pm, 27 Feb 2011
16,031 posts
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Nellers
Wow, this took off while I was away. Really glad I asked and really grateful to you all for your responses. Now what can I add in response?
In answer tot he agreement that broke out on the previoous page I think the best way of dealing with tribal disputes is through the single tranferable goat system.;-)
I hit the wall during a canoeing event many years ago. Just the once. I did it again on a bike but that was just a long ride and a different thing. It's not fun.
My take on what I felt was that I couldn't keep any power in the stroke and my race was over. My support crew got me out of the boat, fed me some mars bar, a snadwich and some glucose drink and told me to "get the f@ck on with it!". 5 minutes late I was back in my rhythm and I was fine for the rest of the day. This makes me think that yes, it's a glycogen depletion thing but it's not entirely about not having fuel for the muscles, more that it's fuel for the brain to concentrate and feel positive.
DeeGee, I think I'm going for 3.45, with 4.00 as my fall back position.
Whoever it was said about your 5 longest runs totalling over 100: I should have bagged the following by the time I taper: 20, 22, 16, 20,22,16,20,22, 2 weeks taper. I'm hoping that should go a long way to getting me ready for the distance.
P.E, I think a lot of it is in our heads, too, bith in terms of confidence and strategy. If we pace it right (and I don't mean to an arbitrary target. I mean to a pace that our training and experience tell us we can hold) then we cut the likelihood of bonking/knocking/hitting the wall, and if we're confident that we've trained right/enough then we should be confident of getting round.
I expect it to be tough in the latter stages. It's called endurance sport for a reason. If there's nothing to endure then why bother.
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Feb 2011
4:50pm, 27 Feb 2011
16,032 posts
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Nellers
Geeeem, your experience kinda back up mine. the amount of calories you took in couldn't have made that much difference physically, surely? It must be a sugars-to-drive-the-brain thing, right?
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Feb 2011
4:52pm, 27 Feb 2011
31,729 posts
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plodding hippo
Nellers
the "dont panic " commetn is very relevant
there is a bit of the unknown in a marathon, thats what makes it the event it is
And i guess thats worst in your first one, but it still hasnt left me
My catch phrase is "the marathon is an unpredictable beastie"
it could all go to plan on the day, and you have no issues
thats more liekly if you have put in the long runs
But thre is a bit of a leap of faith, yes, even if you do 26.2 in training
race day, the adrenlaine and all, is summat else
I always go off too fast
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Feb 2011
4:53pm, 27 Feb 2011
31,730 posts
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plodding hippo
agree also with the sugars thing, i use coca cola
it aint calories, it CANT be
i did 52 miles on five jellybabies, and abiout half a litre of dilute coke and a handful of crisps
No brekky, and it took me 11 hours
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Feb 2011
4:55pm, 27 Feb 2011
16,033 posts
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Nellers
the big worry, plod, is what the right pace actually is. If all goes to plan I think 3.45 is sensible and achieveable. Even saying that things might happen on the day that mean I don't. It is, as you say, an unpredictable beast. There's a lot of time for little things to mount up, far more so than in a 10k or even a half.
But I guess that if you're alert to it and have a flexible plan there's also time to recover from a setback and salvage a decent race.
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