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Jul 2014
8:58pm, 11 Jul 2014
1,989 posts
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FR
Hiya, Canute 
I wonder what has happened to the M.E.R's from six years ago.
I'm think that some have gone to the very dark side that is cycling? Mentioning no names
Going onto something completely different, does anybody add drills during a run? I've done it a couple of times in the last few days. The pull the foot to the bum is the one I have been practising.
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Jul 2014
9:00pm, 11 Jul 2014
1,990 posts
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FR
Also the last couple of training runs have felt really good, and I'm wondering if it because I've increased 'air' time. Linking into the Chi thoughts of not muscling it, they have felt really effortless and breathing very relaxed for a sprightly pace.
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Jul 2014
9:09pm, 11 Jul 2014
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richh
I agree that mindless plodding is not the way to ingrain good habits. At slow speeds, I try to run mindfully with good form - upright posture and quick cadence, which of course means very small steps. It can be relaxing, like a Sunday drive through the countryside.
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Jul 2014
10:23pm, 11 Jul 2014
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eL Bee!
Some of had no choice FR you smug git
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Jul 2014
11:42pm, 11 Jul 2014
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GlennR
I'm still not sure....
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Jul 2014
12:27am, 12 Jul 2014
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Canute
FR, I have many happy memories of on the passion of the MER thread six year ago (and a few regrets for some misunderstandings but I think that exciting passion always creates a risk of misunderstanding. I still feel affection for all of the individuals who contributed to the passionate debates.)
I think that the main reason that the passion has gone is that the biggest questions have been answered (e.g. it takes a push rather than a pull to get airborne) or have be shown to be relatively unimportant (e.g. heel strike v forefoot isn’t a major issue). However there are many questions that I still ponder (e.g. is it best to consciously aim to get off stance quickly and of so, what is the best mental approach to achieving this; alternatively should one actively focus on hip extension in late stance) and a few other minor issues (e.g. what is the optimum amount of rotation of hips around the vertical axis during stance). I would happily continue to participate in discussion of such questions, but I do not think the passion of six years ago can be recaptured.
With regard to your comment on feeling lightness because of more airtime, the interesting paradox is that you only get more airtime (at a given cadence) if you exert a greater vertical push against the ground to get airborne. The art is in achieving this push with such exquisite timing that you capture the maximum amount of recoil energy so that it feels light and springy. (I have now just given the outline of my opinion on the issue of aiming to get off stance quickly – and it’s the same answer Gordon Pirie gave in his book - but I still experiment with different mental strategies for allowing this to happen. Maybe just thinking about being light and springy and letting the non-conscious brain work out how, is the best way to achieve it)
As for incorporating drills into running sessions – I do that about once every two weeks – mainly using drills similar to Pete Magill’s drills.
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Jul 2014
8:35am, 12 Jul 2014
1,992 posts
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FR
Canute, I think you're on something about timing, and that timing maybe only happens when you're subconsciously in the zone. I don't think I can consciously strive for it, it just happens. But getting subconsciously competent is helped by drills, etc, with muscle memory training,
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Jul 2014
8:36am, 12 Jul 2014
1,993 posts
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FR
And eL Bee! the last thing I wanted to portray is being smug
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Jul 2014
5:04pm, 12 Jul 2014
4,504 posts
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jonp
Hi FR! I'm still running regularly every week an also still teaching running.
I worked with a young lad this morning on his running for Football. Also found out this week that a chap I taught to run just completed a 40 miler - which was nice to hear.
Regarding light springiness in running, I still say that running backwards as an exercise is the best way to feel how good forward running should feel.
Canute, I'm still yet to read or hear anything to convince me that trying to actively/consciously increase leg extension in latter half of stance is worthwhile. In fact I would argue that extension occurs itself naturally as speed increases without you needing to think too much about it.
Hope you're all enjoying your own running too
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Jul 2014
5:11pm, 12 Jul 2014
2,000 posts
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FR
Hi jonp, sounds like things are going well for you and your runners
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