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Jan 2007
11:18am, 14 Jan 2007
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size10
Thanks El bee, I find im pretty much the same on an outdoor run, 10-15mins for my hr to stabilise.
Another reason I was thinking of using the dreadmill a couple of times a week is to avoid injury, I'm trying to run on concrete only a couple of times a week, really just my long runs.
Using tracks, trails and treads at other times.
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Jan 2007
12:56pm, 14 Jan 2007
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M - if you want to optimise your training, then having an accurate Max & RHR is important
especially your max!
You will still reap the benefits of running aerobically without knowing their precise figures, and there will be people who claim to train in the same way without using a HRM at all.
And they may be right!
But if you want to structure your training like this, then being accurate makes sense.
I don't know about research, but I certainly don't worry about a few beats here and there!
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Jan 2007
12:59pm, 14 Jan 2007
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But the received wisdom is that... if you train slowly (rather than regularly a few beats above) you will build a more effective aerobic/endurance base!
and you are less likely to get injured!
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Jan 2007
3:36pm, 14 Jan 2007
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Red Tomato
I think I am going to have to do a lot of my running on the treadmill, I have done something to my back and I can hardly walk in the mornings but by the evening it is ok but then have childcare issues. have tried not running ( as everyone says well of course that will be the running that's done your back in even though i hadnt ran for days due to a bad knee) and it doesnt make any difference and as my first marathon is april 1st I am going to be seriously out of shape. Not really sure that treadmill running is as effective though but might be a psychological thing.
Have just got a new polar which looks brilliant though i havent been able to try it out yet, presume the foot pod wont work on the treadmill. but at least i could try out the heart rate stuff.
good running you lot and Ian, not long now before you can start again?
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Jan 2007
4:02pm, 14 Jan 2007
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B.B.
RT - I don't see why the footpod wouldn't work on the treadmill. But if it doesn't, it's no problem, as the machine will tell you hoe far you've gone.
Just done 15m REALLY hilly long run in Richmond Park. That was tough. Did it with tow mates who are both quicker than me, so went a little faster than I would have done normally. Worked out at about 8.00m/mile, but given the hills in RP, that's pretty quick. Feels good now.
First full week of marathon training - 49 miles. I only did more than that twice in the lead up to my last marathon. And they were tough weeks. This week felt fine. That'll be the slow runs then 
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Jan 2007
7:50pm, 14 Jan 2007
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Prop Forward
8.1km, 53mins, avg hr 61%
for the first time i've run in successive days and felt fine about it
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Jan 2007
10:00am, 15 Jan 2007
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B.B.
Guys - question for you....
I did a fairly hard hilly long run yesterday (15m, HR 75-80% WHR) and went for a recovery run at 6am this morning. For the first half mile my HR was really high - I had to walk in places to keep it below 70%. But then all of a sudden it calmed down, and I was able to run at sub-8.00 min/mile and still be below 70%.
Is that normal aftere a long run, or do you think my HR wasn't connected properly? It was a very sudden change from the alarm beeping all of the time, to running quite fast??!
Cheers
BB
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Jan 2007
10:26am, 15 Jan 2007
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If I run early morning, those days when you leap out of bed and run out the door, my Hr always goes a bit nuts before settling down.
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Jan 2007
11:16am, 15 Jan 2007
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BB, sometimes mine seems to do that and I cannot decide whether it is my HR settling into the run or the HRM not connecting properly. It's one or the other, or maybe both?
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Jan 2007
11:16am, 15 Jan 2007
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BB - I tend ignore what happens, in the first mile especially!
In that mile I run a bit by feel. Gently, making sure that I'm breathing like a was still asleep... and wait for it all to sort itself out
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