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Jan 2007
11:12pm, 3 Jan 2007
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Ok, so Gobi, why don't you do them? Is it because you can get the same benefits from siimply doing mile repeats, yassos or other intervals?
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Jan 2007
9:28am, 4 Jan 2007
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Just out of interest, does anyone use a HRM for racing? (i.e. they religiously stick to at/below a certain h/r level)
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Jan 2007
9:32am, 4 Jan 2007
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I wear one!
More for interest and to see where my HR is in relation to perceived effort.
Although I had raced to a HR a couple of times as well.
Spotted the 'tough' bit of FLM '06 coming about half a mile before it hit me, with a noticeable rise in HR and a discernible drop off in pace.
Shoulda done more long miles in training
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Jan 2007
10:15am, 4 Jan 2007
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On the subject of base, speed and HR. So far since the summer I've been getting into running again and building up the mileage. Can do 10 miles now at 70% WHR and it doesn't kill me and feel like I could go on. Havn't really done anything about speed. I'm slow and depending on terrain that's currently 11 to 12 min miles really.
I have 3 months (12 weeks) until half and 8 months until full marathon. Spring 2008 and I'd like to do a 3 day multi-day run.
I'm not really concerned with racing the half full out but would like to beat last years time. Should I be spending the next 4 - 5 months mainly building on base and starting to build up LSR's back to back (taking into account next years plan). So basically as much time on feet the better with some speed work thrown in. I was thinking that being able to do 15 miles comfortably at 70% would be a good place to end up?
Then 3 to 4 months before marathon cocentrating a bit more on speed and pushing on with the final distance.
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Jan 2007
10:40am, 4 Jan 2007
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B.B.
Katie - I have found your advice and knowledge very helpful. Certainly one of the more learned Fetchies regarding training techniques and racing tactics etc
Gobi - I also would like to know why you don't do tempo runs
Moschops - your ideas there all sound sensible. If you continue to build the base and add one or two harder sessions per week (be it tempo, intervals or hills) then you will be in great shape to smash your half mara PB. 15 miles at 70% is a great place to get to. Your harder sessions should be aiming to push you above 85% WHR. Once the half is out of the way it really is a case of more of the same - just building up the length of your Long Slow Run and pushing yourself a little bit harder in the 'hard' sessions, whatever they may be
And regarding HRM in races.... I have never done it, but I'm seriously considering it for Boston. Because it's so hilly (mainly downhill, then some vicious uphills) I am thinking that an HRM will be a better indication of how I'm doing than pace. I think the theory is that you should do marathons at 75-80% WHR. I would be interested to get people's thoughts on this
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Jan 2007
11:15am, 4 Jan 2007
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Moschops - I agree with what BB said - keep at it as you are, build up your miles and add in a harder/faster session to increase your leg speed and strength.
And those times will fall very nicely!
BB The theory is that you run at a pace whereby the rate at which you use lactate is the same or greater than the rate at which you produce it - the ubiquitous Lactate Threshold
Many writers suggest that That point is around 80% WHR - but as we all know, with appropriate training it is possible to raise your LT!
MY LT currently sits at about HR 181 (which is 85%WHR) So I try and keep it nicely below that! Which is easy enough in the early stages!
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Jan 2007
11:37am, 4 Jan 2007
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B.B.
Thanks, EB.
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Jan 2007
11:51am, 4 Jan 2007
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BB, I tend not to use the HRM function in races but you are making me wonder whether I ought to do so in marathons now ...
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Jan 2007
11:59am, 4 Jan 2007
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B.B.
Ian - the reason why I was thinking about it was from reading the Compleat Idiot, and he was talking about using it at Boston.
Not sure I would use one in a flat marathon, but seems like it could be really helpful on the hills
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Jan 2007
12:22pm, 4 Jan 2007
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hmmm...
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