Feb 2013
8:27pm, 27 Feb 2013
17,157 posts
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Johnny Blaze
I've never had sex for money or drugs.
But for beer? Well, call me an old slapper, but...
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Feb 2013
8:27pm, 27 Feb 2013
17,158 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Oops
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Feb 2013
8:29pm, 27 Feb 2013
24,031 posts
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JenL
They don't mention drink at all, from what I recall, which is quite interesting
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Feb 2013
8:30pm, 27 Feb 2013
6,853 posts
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McGoohan
I think Trin's hit the nail on the head.
I don't think the 'I don't want sex anymore' thing would happen in isolation. In the example I've quoted I think it's just one more piece of evidence that the relationship has problems.
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Feb 2013
8:32pm, 27 Feb 2013
3,073 posts
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sallykate
Surely it's perfectly possible to have separate rooms for whatever reason and retain a decent sex life. Jenni Murray (she of Radio 4 Woman's Hour) tells of her husband moving out of their bedroom when their children were little (I think) so that he could get a decent night's sleep and they're happy.
I wonder about this (the separate rooms thing) because my OH snores and I am usually sleeping in a separate room while hoping that at some point the snoring thing will go away and I'll be back in the same room because I miss not the sex but the fact of sleeping with someone. TBH sex is something that happens either last thing at night before sleep or first thing in the morning after sleep so it doesn't really matter to me where the actual sleeping happens as long as it happens.
We still love being physically intimate whether that means sex or walking holding hands or sitting in a bar touching in some way. Is that the case with the couples in the OP?
Any times I've gone totally off sex have been more to do with my state of mind and feelings about myself than any sense that I never want anything to do with it, or a particular person, again.
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Feb 2013
8:33pm, 27 Feb 2013
2,212 posts
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Pestomum
Apart from the obvious, the trouble with prostitution in the UK is that it's illegal and therefor a fantastic place for drugs, trafficking of women and violence.
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Feb 2013
8:35pm, 27 Feb 2013
6,854 posts
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McGoohan
I've been reading (and reading about) Andrea Dworkin a bit recently - People think Dworkin said 'all heterosexual sex is rape'. She didn't say that and was pissed off that people kept claiming she'd said that.
However, she did claim that heterosexual sex puts women in a subservient position to men and therefore weakens their argument for equality. - so she was recommending women might want to have a bit of a think about what they were getting out of the deal.
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Feb 2013
8:38pm, 27 Feb 2013
7,392 posts
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fleecy
Heterosexual sex puts women in a subservient position? Not if she's on top
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Feb 2013
8:39pm, 27 Feb 2013
7,393 posts
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fleecy
And if you're talking power, then all relationships involve ongoing negotiation of power, whether implicitly or explicitly, and sex is part of that.
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Feb 2013
8:40pm, 27 Feb 2013
24,032 posts
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JenL
I only recently found out that Christian Bale is one of Gloria Steinem's children
I think Dworkin has a point. Western women at least, don't have to accept subservience because we DO have a choice, even though not all of us recognise that we do. Other cultures, less so and there are more women in those "other" cultures.
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