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Feb 2023
10:01am, 12 Feb 2023
6 posts
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gt
This week I ran a totally unplanned 21km.
I was fairly happy with a time just over 2:17 considering the fact I hadn’t prepared at all and had never ran that distance before.
I now find much self looking at a local trail half later in the year with thoughts of improving my time. I’d like to aim for a sub 2h but it’s a pretty lumpy course with 600m of climbing on it so not sure it’s possible.
I’ve no idea about training and when I’ve tried following a training plan on the bike previously, I’ve got bored and ended up doing my own thing instead.
What would be better, trying to follow a Garmin Coach half marathon plan or just using the daily workout that the Garmin suggests?
I’m not going to be exclusively running as I’ll still be doing a bit of mountain biking as well.
Any suggestions?
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Feb 2023
10:25am, 12 Feb 2023
2,356 posts
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Bowman 🇸🇪
Well it depends on your mind, do you like to follow plans? You didn’t the last time right?
Try to run and or biking some more.
More training is often the easiest way of improving. And if you up your training, go a bit slower so you don’t increase both distance and effort and hurt yourself.
And train in similar conditions, ie hilly terrain. 600m is a lot of ascent.
Or you can look at some of the plans here on the site to get some inspiration.
But, most of the time, time on your legs will do the trick.
Good luck with your trail HM.
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Feb 2023
11:13am, 13 Feb 2023
40,369 posts
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EvilPixie
there are some Fetch plan too
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Feb 2023
2:50pm, 13 Feb 2023
14,282 posts
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jda
I'm also not a fan of overly prescriptive plans, I couldn't imagine doing a structured workout more than 2 or just possibly 3 times a week. I suspect you'll make the greatest gains by just getting out running steadily as often as possible, aim for 30+ mins each time and hopefully significantly over an hour at least once a week. Occasional interval workouts or parkruns etc to test and measure yourself. But build up gradually if you're not already running frequently.
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Feb 2023
2:51pm, 13 Feb 2023
677 posts
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ptr_rnr
The difference between a plan and the daily workout will be that the plan has the half marathon goal in mind. But the daily workout will just be a generic "be better" workout.
If it was me, it's the plan every time.
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Feb 2023
3:11pm, 15 Feb 2023
2,690 posts
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Steve NordRunner
That depends on the watch. In my case it’s an Epix. The recent watches take any race entries in your Garmin calendar into account and vary the daily suggestions. You also have the option to designate future races as primary or secondary.
Leading up to last November I followed a structured Garmin half plan and got both a half and 10 km sb with it. After that I have followed the daily suggestion. As a streaker who runs a bit when I am supposed to be resting, I find this disrupts the daily suggestion. Some time after midnight it changes its mind about a suggestion for a hard session and wants an easy or rest day. As a result, over time I get too little higher intensity this way.
The workaround for having thrown the Daily Suggestion off-kilter is to go in through the Calendar or Race calendar glance instead of the Run activity. This lets you then choose a suggestion for a harder workout from a day or two ahead, e.g., a threshold session. You can then run that so that hard sessions don't get squeezed out. If you keep an eye on the training balance, and Fetch's monthly HR graph, you can then see if your getting enough high vs low efforts.
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Feb 2023
3:24pm, 15 Feb 2023
2,691 posts
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Steve NordRunner
If you look at the heartrate-graph on my infographic for January, you can see that harder sessions get squeezed out of Garmin's Daily Suggestion if you streak or train on your easy days.
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