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Feb 2020
10:00pm, 17 Feb 2020
3,075 posts
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FenlandRunner
What a joke VAR is! Do they make the call dependent on the highest bid to the crooks at Stockley Park.
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Feb 2020
10:01pm, 17 Feb 2020
9,996 posts
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Joopsy
Never feel sorry for Chelsea.
All that money they took from that big Russian crook, but they’ve never won three in a row.
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Feb 2020
10:04pm, 17 Feb 2020
3,076 posts
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FenlandRunner
Don't feel sorry for the blues. Just don't like witnessing complete injustice.
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Feb 2020
10:07pm, 17 Feb 2020
45,101 posts
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Diogenes
No, they make it based on the way they use technology to judge the actual position of each player. Technically, the decisions are correct, but they are not to the spirit of the law. When it comes to drawing a line VAR does it to the millimetre. We need a bigger margin. Fair enough, these things aren’t always clear in real time so VAR has its place but If it’s not clear to the human eye, if you need a computer to draw a line, then it should not be offside.
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Feb 2020
10:16pm, 17 Feb 2020
35,788 posts
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Nellers
I know what you mean Dio, but if they had, say, a 10 centimetre tolerance on those decisions all you've done is moved the line. The argument then is whether he was 9 or 11 cms offside and the argument goes on.
Haven't seen the first disallowed goal but that second one was definitely the correct decision from the VAR review. the issue is surely more about how they communicate it in the stadium. They're failing on that even when they seem to mostly be getting the decisions right.
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Feb 2020
10:22pm, 17 Feb 2020
45,103 posts
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Diogenes
That’s exactly what I said, Nellers, it’s not about a specific tolerance, it needs to be clear without the use of a slide rule.
Giroud’s position on that goal was perfect, 99.9% level. You don’t want goals rules out like that. Benefit of the doubt to the attacker.
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Feb 2020
7:12am, 18 Feb 2020
3,077 posts
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FenlandRunner
First goal, Fred pushed the Chelsea player who couldn't stop himself knocking Williams.
Either give the goal, or give Chelsea a penalty.
And as for marginal offside with lines drawn by somebody with a crayon, give me a rest.
I thought it was meant to be 'clear and obvious'.
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Feb 2020
7:16am, 18 Feb 2020
35,790 posts
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Nellers
Not on offsides, FR. On offsides its checking a very subjective thing. Was a part of the player that they could have used to score a goal in an offside position when the ball was played. Any part. No matter how small a part.
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Feb 2020
8:03am, 18 Feb 2020
409 posts
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blindcider
Nellers, the counter to that is that as far as I can tell the VAR refs are massively forensic on the position of the player but not on the precise moment the ball is played which means that their precision zooming in and cursor pointing is nonsense.
Note as far as I can tell in the law the ball is played as soon as it is touched. Some of these VAR decisions you can see the ball has already left the foot.
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Feb 2020
8:34am, 18 Feb 2020
35,791 posts
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Nellers
I do agree that the limiting factor is technology, specifically frame rate but the counter to that is that as long as the rule is being applied consistently then everyone is getting the same decisions. If some refs were forensic about the ball being struck rather than the player position it would be different.
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