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Morning Light: The Fetchland Gardening Wire

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MarkyMarkMark (3M) Nov 2021 11:50am, 3 Nov 2021 16,524 posts	Quote Pin MarkyMarkMark (3M) I thought they were, jacdaw, but didn't like to risk being wrong and expose my ignorance! I guess they're different varieties. Most of the brassica family seem to be the same species too, given their willingness to cross-pollinate?
Elsie Too Nov 2021 12:10pm, 3 Nov 2021 4,503 posts	Quote Pin Elsie Too I have a bare root climbing rose arriving soon - recommended by this thread - Madam Alfred Carrier. I will be planting it where I currently have dahlias - they will go else where in the garden next year. So I have 2 questions to the experts on here: 1) How soon after arrival do I need to plant the rose? 2) When should I dig up the dahlia - they just had their second frost but still have flowers. Is it possible to dig them up too soon?
jacdaw Nov 2021 12:15pm, 3 Nov 2021 3,449 posts	Quote Pin jacdaw Two species mostly MMM. Cabbage, sprouts, broccoli, kale, kohl rabi, cauliflower are all Brassica oleracea; turnips, some mustards and rapes, tatsoi, pak choy etc. are Brassica rapa. I think oil seed rape is a different species again.
jacdaw Nov 2021 12:17pm, 3 Nov 2021 3,450 posts	Quote Pin jacdaw You can just heel bare rooted shrubs into a temporary home if their final bed isn't ready, but they need to go in the ground as soon as possible in my opinion / experience. I just kill dahlias, so won't advise on those...
Elsie Too Nov 2021 12:55pm, 3 Nov 2021 4,504 posts	Quote Pin Elsie Too Thanks for both your advise and lack of advise jacdaw!
Angus Clydesdale Nov 2021 1:59pm, 3 Nov 2021 23,452 posts	Quote Pin Angus Clydesdale I agree with heeling them in asap. Don't want them to catch cold, as my granny would say.
Hanneke Nov 2021 5:58pm, 3 Nov 2021 81,723 posts	Quote Pin Hanneke Dahlias: dig the up when the foliage has gone black. Re the rose: you can heel her in in the compost heap, or a bucket of potting compost. Re chard: I am at 180 metres and in a frost pocket and just picked some for supper. My plants will see me through a second winter
Hanneke Nov 2021 5:59pm, 3 Nov 2021 81,724 posts	Quote Pin Hanneke Worst is roots drying out! So they get heeled in her as soon as they arrive.
Columba Nov 2021 9:11pm, 3 Nov 2021 21,386 posts	Quote Pin Columba I have moved chard plants, in an experimental way, as I wanted the space they were growing in for growing something else. They survived. Can't remember if they all did, but certainly some did.
Elsie Too Nov 2021 7:15am, 4 Nov 2021 4,505 posts	Quote Pin Elsie Too Thanks all