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Jun 2020
11:59am, 18 Jun 2020
70,294 posts
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Gobi
Define lower speed 1setp ? 3 of my crashes have been at over 30mph in races (the joy of not hitting a car just concreate) and I have walked away with no facial injuries and only 1 head scuff where the helmet cracked/compressed but obviously moved
Larks - I mix up my bikes, ride the MTB and go offroad or CX and mix it up or ride my old training bike on the road. Effort is a funny thing as unless you care about the actually pace I can put the same effort in easy or hard on the MTB/cross/road bike.
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Jun 2020
12:06pm, 18 Jun 2020
7,626 posts
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jda
I absolutely agree that wearing helmets while racing is a good idea. That applies for both car drivers and cyclists, but doesn't seem necessary for running or walking (even race walking).
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Jun 2020
12:15pm, 18 Jun 2020
11,291 posts
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larkim
Yep, I've no plans ever to commute 90mins on a regular basis, but doing my "cross training" once or twice per week / fortnight via commuting frees up evenings quite nicely, even if I am home 30-40 mins later than usual. As a first timer last week, the biggest hassle was making sure I had though of everything and had the route locked down on my watch etc, so the whole thing probably took me 5 minutes of extra riding and 10-15 minutes of extra prep than it would normally.
On a calm summers morning, leaving at 6:30-6:45 so I can be changed and at my desk for 8:30 is no real hassle, and a pleasant 90 minutes home to get back for 6:30-7:00 with a run / exercise free evening to follow doesn't sound too bad, and assuming I ride at only a moderate effort rather than at any sort of training pace it doesn't leave me wanting to sit on the sofa all night.
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Jun 2020
12:20pm, 18 Jun 2020
70,296 posts
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Gobi
I dont overall remember falling over running or walking JDA
I have done 120 mile round trip commutes hence I am a sporadic commuter. When the office was 2 miles from my house I rode everyday.
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Jun 2020
12:22pm, 18 Jun 2020
11,292 posts
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larkim
I'd love to have a more natural commute distance with run or ride options, but sadly never managed to tie that one up and doubt I will ever get that sorted in my working life.
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Jun 2020
12:26pm, 18 Jun 2020
5,512 posts
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1step2far
Gobi you are the exception  I'm speaking generally. And Helmets generally have limited benefit at speed rather than none.
I shall try and find some evidence... most of it is from experience as an A and E nurse and work pre hospital- have scraped my cyclists up off the road. The difference in injuries is significant. But looking at deaths as the only marker isn't helpful- a helmet wont help in a situation where a HGV caused traumatic amputation of a leg for example. (But I am pro helmet)
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Jun 2020
12:29pm, 18 Jun 2020
10,777 posts
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MazH
I can't decide if i am doing it for financial, environmental, mental health/happiness, or Xtraining benefits - all of the above I think.....
Training wise, it's a moderate effort and I get a bit of a sweat on, so definitely logging it!
and like Larkim, it's nice to not have to do anything later on... I'm probably only half an hour later than I would be on the normal commute. (albeit with an earlier start, and a little bit of planning)
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Jun 2020
12:35pm, 18 Jun 2020
11,293 posts
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larkim
I get that people want or don't want to wear them. The odd thing in the helmet debate seems to be the lengths that those who don't want to wear them seem to be able to go to with logic about the detriment of wearing them.
Perhaps there is evidence that drivers see someone with a helmet on and take more of a risk when overtaking them, and perhaps there is a risk that cyclists wearing them feel safer so take more risks, and that some people are put off getting valuable exercise by any obligation (legal or by social expectations), but no matter what papers I've read on it over the years I remain sceptical that those factors are anything other than minor in the grand scheme of things.
For me, if there's a 0.1% chance across 10,000 miles of riding that a helmet will provide a tangible benefit to my head, that's me sold (irrespective of my forgetful nature which will still see me get the bike out and forget to grab my lid too).
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Jun 2020
12:36pm, 18 Jun 2020
70,297 posts
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Gobi
Limited is above zero - just saying
Ps. A car doesnt help in an impact with a truck but I wouldnt drive without the shell and what limited protection it brings.
No doubt my most vulnerable position is the motorbike and if I hit or get hit on that well.... however I still wear the best kit for even the most limited chance of help.
Maz - I do it if and when I want or if I have a big race and 8 hrs on the bike is useful. I have no smug points or environmental reasons. My reasons are shallow , if it suits me. Personally I like my car and I like my motorbike .
Options and choices
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Jun 2020
12:37pm, 18 Jun 2020
5,513 posts
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1step2far
I agree Gobi... that's why I said limited rather than none!
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