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Good training :-). Have you tried smoothies or shakes* post run, perhaps with some oats or other grains thrown in: may be easier on the guts?

*not that overpriced protein shake nonsense, somethink proper like Nesquik or Crusha. Or maybe with tinned fruit.

Friij is my go-to drink after a hard sesh. And I've had a handful of pistachios to get a bit of something in.

I’m having to drink rather than eat after any run right now but something is better than nothing *eating a raspberry jam donut*

I just need to buy a good blender then, obvs *blends marmite on toast*

No harm in pwp / pmp miles coming out a tad faster than the actual plan for the day, especially if the recovery in subsequent days isn't affected. My take on P&D plans are that if you can consistently follow their plans week in week out but creep the pace upwards a little without impacting that recovery then you're doing the right thing. What would be worse would be being unable to hit their paces, but still trying every time and causing yourself to be too tired.

Good confidence boost on the start line (though don't let that give you a revised MP on the day, certainly not until 18-20 miles are under your belt!)

I agree re dehydration. It's been noticeable on my long walks that until I've caught up with fluids, food is pointless.

What Larks said I don't know what you drink the evening before a run but it may be worth thinking about what you drink and start drinking more water. This should help with hydration. The trouble is we're all so different and no one thing will cure everything. Good luck with any experiments you make and I wish I could be in Glasgow Saturday.

Thanks all. I'll find out how the recovery is when I try the strides on Thurs

Marmite? That's where you go wrong urghhhh

Cheers for the interviews Ian. As an ED myself, interesting to hear some of the answers given!

Lovely
Can cross-training Hiking also count please?

ooh, very exciting. This is going to make me log more of my walking. I don't know if that's good or bad

Eek! Excellent ... but I have The Fear. (Withnail)

All right, this is the plan. We get in there and get wrecked, then we'll eat a pork pie, then we'll drop a couple of Surmontil-50's each. That means we'll miss out Monday but come up smiling Tuesday morning.

Oh noes, I am going to have to keep up my rowing!

Hiking too. Please.

@Rosehip and @WS - I've incorporated hiking into the totals now.

I'd better start recording my recent mileage then...

Ooh yes Helegant - you must!

Splendid

Well that’s rather exciting .... lucky I went for my longest ever walk yesterday !!

Can we be highlighted in the lists please? My varifocals struggle a bit

Well done 😁

Yay 9th 😁😁😁😁

I haven't logged a lot of my walking this month but how do we access this league normally?

I'll be rebuilding the rankings page to group together all the different league tables we have (there are a tonne), and this will be one of them. Until then, you'll have to use the link in my blog.

That sounds great, I shall be plotting my WSW route later so will give it a try

Nice one Fetchio I'm currently working through my local area on OpenStreetMaps, altering and adding to the footpaths.

I have found it better...just scrutinizing the maps for WSWs purposes.

Awesome - I just put in a couple of points near home and it found all the best footpaths

Fills in some gaps around Attenborough Nature Reserve, an improvement on G**gle

Great, thanks.

Confirming - it picks out footpaths - which Gmaps never did. Only one (very very minor) point - it is a bit slow. Whilst playing (aka testing) I found I was clicking twice because the first click didn't seem to take. But I guess that is just user training.
But that's a small price to pay for the extra benefit of paths.

Well found, and thanks !

I could do some sort of egg timer thing to help feed back to the user. The response time is variable.

when you've got based maps with better data, it stands to reason that the routing based on them will be better :-). It's a shame that the OS digital maps aren't freely available given they're generally (until recently) been funded buy our taxes.

A couple of things I noticed today. If you look at the old training view it still has the google map and not the osm version. I guess that means not very many people are using that view any more but it might still help to switch. The other thing I noticed was that following a garmin fail I tired to edit my run and I could only edit a run using google maps with no follow roads. Hope this helps. Whilst I am here i was looking at the old view because I remembered there used to be a link the uploaded training run somewhere but I couldn't see it there. Are these accessible without saving from the training log?

Super. Thanks Ian!!

This is a great improvement!

"the right pace, iff I was going for 3:45 mara" hmmmm. Not the right pace then? Having seen how you recovered from this run I think you should aim to go slower for the long run. But you know that's what I think.

I definitely need to nail the post-run guts shutdown issue :-/ That's a whole blog in itself.

You're welcome Post run guts shutdown? Blimey after a race or long run I could eat for England, I can only think of once that I actually couldn't finish a meal. However, be careful increasing your weekly miles if you don't run that far regularly, you don't want to end up injured. Have fun.

Ooh, thanks for name check! No harm in long run on tired(ish) legs, usually helps. I would just add that HR improvements tend to go in chunks of 4 weeks or so. Just about how long body takes to adapt. So don't be worried if you don't see week on week (and def not daily!) improvements. It will feel hard for a bit, then a few weeks later will take a sudden leap forward. In fact, Hadd and other HR based training recommend re-benchmarking yourself no more often than every 4 weeks (or even 6 weeks). Great training, well done.

Good luck on identifying thing hurting the site. Is there any way that you can make it such that when something goes bad, it is switched off, to protect rest of site? A bit of code like a "keep awake" / heart beat type thing, so that if a query is taking too long it is shut down? Or if you're getting really clever, then shuffled down the queue. In Unix there are commands like Nice that will automatically de-prioritise something that is consuming too much resource. That sort of thing? Enjoy! G

@oumaumau - I'd envisaged that I'll do the occasional long run with a bit of marathon pace in it to see how PMP feels on tired legs.

I would get out of the habit of quicker earlier in the long run...You want to save energy for later. You see a lot of marathons go arwy early on. Taps are heavy don't take them with you. Bug tracking makes it sound like a real job.

You may well find that starting the long runs at a steadier pace will fall into place as your runs get longer and your running brain starts to get a grip on how hard you can run for *that* time/distance.

P&D suggest longs runs are split evenly and first half at MP + 20% and second half at MP +10%. HR I can’t say until I get home and check the book. However although I haven’t been running that long I really do think using the 18 and then 12 week plans up to 55 mpw helped me immensely with my running. Having the book is a definite must have imho to get it right. HR and pacing suggestions are in it.

My most successful* long runs were when I set out very conservatively and held it in check the whole way. I read something once - long runs should be run as slowly as you can, then slow down a bit more.

*I'll leave it up to you to decide if you take advice from a 5:17 PB marathoner.....

Started P&D for Abingdon today. Good luck!

You should run the same route and distance to make that sort of comparison.

That sounds very civilised and sensible

I shall following your training with interest.

I've been aiming to keep easy under 75% max, occasionally 70%, been reading the Hadd thread by any chance?

Supposed to be starting 18wk P&D tomorrow, instead I am sat with my leg up and iced, considering my first ever physio visit...

Not Hadd, just the standard Parker stuff. I hope your leg improves.

P&D is a great plan. My modification tips would be - mid week long run can be split into smaller chunks without losing much. But try and get the full weekly mileage in. Don't scrimp on weekly longest run though. If anything, if you are happy and have time to do easy *longer* long run e.g. 20 when it says 17, then do that. You can't do too many 20s! As long as it doesn't take too much out of you. And intervals while icing on cake, are useful: they get you moving very differently to even one's 5K pace. Strides are similarly useful. As we know, doing most of is at sub 70% is the right thing to do for improving aerobic system (and you are getting those improvements as you note above). But we can end up "plodding" (e.g. shuffling) movement in all our runs. So strides and intervals correct that, but in short, manageable bursts so that you don't break yourself, or make rest of training undoable. You're doing great. Enjoy the training and look out for niggles. Of course you've got professional physio services at home, so I'm sure you'll be grand, but don't neglect core and some leg stretches and strengthening, given all the extra load you'll be putting in through this increased training quantity and intensity. And have a great race. I look forward to following your progress young man! G

Impressive planning and training: interesting re HR too.

You’re following P&D but have you read the book? The actual training pacing targets are in there. I’m happy to lend you mine.

Interesting thoughts on volunteering, especially acknowledging that they didn't really get it right at first. I agree with you in that I don't think the physical/active benefit of volunteering is the same as running/walking a parkrun, but I do agree that it can have some active benefits and lots of other advantages too. I know when I volunteer at Newcastle parkrun, I'll easily get my 10,000 steps in and it's a good bit of social fun too.

Mrs. Fetch's phrase about volunteering is brilliant!

We've had a discussion about where that phrase comes from and although I love it and try my best to live by it, it's actually not mine. I think I may have first heard of it on the RW fetcheveryone thread, when there weren't forums on here. I just looked it up and it's still not clear who first ever said it: quoteinvestigator.com

Every day's a school day Good maxim, Katie!

Tom's comment that volunteers standing around in the freezing cold for an hour is 'an extreme example' is just not true - it's a regular example throughout the winter months, and it's not active. So the observation stands that volunteering is not always as physically beneficial as running.

Great interview Fetch - and for me, I've decided that in future I shall now ignore communications from parkrun HQ, as they are detracting from my enjoyment of parkrun.

Thanks for these Fetch - very interesting to hear the rationale behind some of the actions whether or not I agree with it. An interesting take on the volunteer role and and interesting how your 'extreme example' was batted away, but the 'non volunteering' answer ended on a similarly extreme example.
I like the interview style - better a social chat than a Paxman grilling for these ....

I thought Fetch made the point very well that, whilst volunteering is generally great and has many benefits, most of us would struggle with the notion that it was as beneficial in terms of physical activity as running or walking. I'm not entirely sure if Tom is being disingenuous in his position that it is as physically beneficial, or if he does genuinely believe that - it sort of feels to me like a line that parkrun HQ have come up with to "prove" that volunteering is a valid as running or walking parkrun, which is silly as most parkrunners already realise this.

Sigh and Um, I also thought it was odd when Tom described Fetch's example as "extreme" (I'd say it was pretty common place), especially when he went on to use far more extreme examples himself, not only on the volunteering question, but also when answering Fetch's question about T shirt claims (the example of a junior running 10 times in 2004, then stopping running completely...). I also agree Um that Fetch's interview style for these is spot-on.

I'm really sorry but I have to call "pseudoscience" on the idea that exercise guidelines are dubious because they talk about volume and intensity and again Tom really does go for false dichotomies. Once again there is a wholly inaccurate idea that if you exercise hard, you cannot possibly enjoy it or you get injured. I simply would not bother if I wasn't trying as hard as I could, if this doesn't meet with someone else's approval then I'm very sorry but I'm not doing it for you, I'm doing it for me.

Thanks for this update.

Hi Fetch - Thanks for the update.
I had a couple of fails (site timeout) this morning (Saturday 8:30ish). Seems OK now, but just letting you know it may not be as fixed as they say ...
Will let you know any chnage over the weekend.

Garmin Connect export is on the top right of the activity view, one of the options from the light grey cog wheel.

It was broken at about 5am I think although it could have been midnight I’m not sure when I was awake but I was.

The Garmin retry meant my missed files were transferred later so all is good!

I’m sure we could do that at some point, and that there’d be an associated cost.

I am disappointed. I had always imagined Fetch running off a beefy sort of PC in his spare bedroom.

To add to what um wrote above, export to GPX and then dragging the file onto the 'Import GPX file' page on Fetch worked for me.

Ah, so that's why I couldn't publish my last blog yesterday afternoon. It's otherwise not impacted me at all, but I didn't have any net access between that then and this afternoon, anyway.

And then, about 33 hours after the run, Garmin did zap it over!

Hi Fetch - update on access at 4pm Sunday ... taking 1-2 mins to open Fetch home page, then when selecting blogs, varies between 3-4 mins and getting error : Sorry - the server is experiencing high volumes of traffic, or performing a backup. Please try again in a few minutes.
(broadband test is pinging at 9ms and download spped >70Mbps , other pages like BBC load instantly, so I suspect it's not my end or ISP?)

Hi again ...
Since I note when it's not 100% ... equallywhen it is, at 19:20 Sunday it's perfect - page refreshes as good as instantaneous - blogs, forums, traing log etc

Like it!

excellent, love them!

Brillo

Great questions .... but really difficult to answer

Erm. You seem to have forgotten cake.

Deeeeeeeeep

Fetch also started a thread about it. Come and chat about what you think about the questions and what answers you're going to (or have already) put in... fetcheveryone.com/forum__60428__tell_us_about_you

A thread to chat about what you think about the questions and what answers you're going to (or have already) put in... fetcheveryone.com/forum__60428__tell_us_about_you

Have added answers from the link on your (Fetch's) site - but I don't see any natural link from ny own profile. Should there be one?

I put five answers in but the update went to 'saved' than back to 'update'. Will it appear on my profile? *rushes off to check.*

It isn't integrated with the profile yet, because the questions are nonsense.

I've always found you very responsive to reports of issues. I think the back of the envelope approach worked well

I got that - but thought it was a test run!

Do you think the tracking software will obviate the need for a cookie co-ordinator?

I will buy an extra icing gun just in case.

I did it and it did the same brief saved then update again. I was quite pleased with my answers though.......

Worked fine on my android phone in the wild north.

I have filled in the answers. I didn't like it going from saved to update because I didn't know if I had saved it so felt the need to click it again, but I guess when you can see an answer on your profile you will know that it has been saved so not a problem when it all goes live.

Nonsense? I answered them seriously... (succinct has a typo btw!)

User Profile Questions
To help us get to know each other better, here are five questions that everyone on the site can give their own answer to. You don't have to do this, but it's a nice way to get involved with our community. To encourage succint answers, each answer has a limit of 250 characters.

Is beetroot nicer than ham?

Yes (I'm a veggie!)

You have used 19/250 characters

Given that there is no such concept as time, there can be no reality. Discuss.

Time is an illusion; lunchtime doubly so. (Douglas Adams) so yes, I'm a sci-fi nerd too. And of a certain age (40s or 50s, given that it came out in 1978!)

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Smell my what?

Cheese? Is that a "Who moved my cheese?" thing?

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What everyone?

Fetch Everyone (was that like, "Give me an F", Give me an "E" ... etc.?! Good 'ol Fetch.

Or, was it checking your Fetch history? i.e. Bring me everyone. EVERYONE! from Leon, the origin of the (mis)quote that Fetch based his website on.

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Oh really?
No, didn't have an answer for that one!
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G

Gave it a quick bash and prod. Didn't fall over

I too discovered and started using Mantis last year - very useful!

Can you make the button change from green to another (any) colour when clicked, as I clicked it 3 times before I realised that it had changed from update to saved.

I answered seriously too:

Is beetroot nicer than ham?
Only if served with mashed potatoes and corned beef.
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Given that there is no such concept as time, there can be no reality. Discuss.
Millennium hand and shrimp.
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Smell my what?
Banana.
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What everyone?
Fetch, natch!
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Oh really?
Aye, really.
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Nice!
Any chance you two might work together on something? Would be lovely to see FE linkable to your parkrun profile for instance

Will listen with interest later to all of this - got through the first 20 minutes or so and was impressed with Tom's articulation of the "not a race" bit. Right to point out the "parkrun pacers" in the emails too, they are definitely a +ve adding a hint of "speed" to the broad tones of the weekly emails.

Very interesting interview, well done fetch

Following some of the posts on the parkrun thread , I was expecting an edgier tone, not confrontational as such but more about the niggles that parkrun participants everywhere raise. Not sure about the implied differentiation between back of the field and further forward: eyeballs out to dip under 50 min. compared with 'jogging round' in 23 almost socially. Data seemed to push philosophy into a corner imho.

I don't understand what you mean from "the implied differentiation" onwards.

35-37 minutes in interview. After this, you say you're uncertain of what Tom means. I suppose every person's parkrun will be different, week by week, and in terms of justification.

Excellent. As above.. like the bit about the whys and wherefores of it not being a race

I think Tom got it spot on on the 50 minute runner vs the 19 minute runner cruising around in 23 minutes. I’ll re-think my mindset on this, as it is fundamentally wrong to “only” allow slower runners to give a flat out effort, whereas the rest of the field can run at any pace they fancy.

Very interesting, enjoyed listening.

I enjoyed that. Tom made sense of a lot of things. I confess I was one of those going, "Yes, of course it does!" at the computer when he asked whether running 19 minutes meant he was a worse runner than when he was running 17 minutes, but he put his point across very well.

Kept me quiet for 41 mins

Thanks, an interesting listen.

I thought Tom's justification for getting rid of the points table and "race" mentality were excellent.

I thoroughly enjoyed it. Good to have the insights of parkrun HQ thinking.

I've only got as far as the bit where he talks about his breakfast - am now pausing to vomit at the thought of what he's just described, jeez could he not just have said cornflakes and be done with it - I will be back later

thanks for doing this Fetch, nice to hear parkrun described exactly as it is and no hidden agendas.

Interesting about the points thing - I'd never thought of it that way, but can understand why they have taken it down now. Do wish that had been communicated before! I was never interested in it, but didn't like the symbolism of any vestige of running quickly being eliminated.

Looking forward to the next one where hopefully some of the questions come in

Looking forward to the next instalment now I really should get out of bed and run

enjoyable, interesting and informative ...I also go to Hull when I fancy a fast blast

To the "Am I a worse runner now I'm slower?" thing, Use the WAVA Luke. I also call "False Dichotomy" on "Fast = miserable, slow = happy", what if your psychological makeup is that trying as hard as you can/going as fast as you can is the entire point? To explain, let's take it away from running entirely, for me it is exactly the same as the satisfaction you get from doing a tricky job - like tiling the bathroom walls and at the end you stand back and think "I did that as well as I could". Is that happy? Yes.

I presume users can change their answers at any time to suit their circumstances, in which case you could have questions such as:

In training or on the bench?
Next Big Challenge?
Long Term Goal?
Biggest obstacle to overcome?
How are you feeling?

I avoided questions about favourite discipline as for an active Fetchie (the kind who would answer the q's), it'll be evident from the summary of training. Equally there are plenty of folks who would find this all a bit intrusive and would prefer not to answer, which is fair do's.

Those are really well thought out, Sigh. Don't think I can come up with anything as good.

They're not original or anything, but clichés become clichés because they contain some truth and all that :
Who would you invite to a fantasy dinner party (7 people living or dead)?

If you could visit the world of any book/film/TV show (or series thereof), which would it be?
Best race /training experience so far?

Worst race /training experience so far?
Ultimate bucket list event to participate (or just spectate live in the flesh)?

Best advice you've been given?
Could break this into 2 questions - sport and non-sport related

And what advice would you give a newbie?

I like Sigh’s questions.

Favourite thread

My only comment on the questions themselves is that Sigh's are good but one "cliche" one like Raemond's would be nice to mix it up.

My real comment is to say this is a great idea. I'd really like to see the profile part of Fetch ramped up - the community is one of the strengths of the site and it seems appropriate to give anything in that area some love. e.g. can you work on the visuals for the profile page after this? Nicer profile picture, maybe bit of a visual montage of their activities, that sort of thing.

A version of westmoors; what do you know now about running that you wish you'd known when you began?

The reason I like Sigh's questions is that they are A) relevant and can change B) you can learn a lot about the person via a few sentences of anwers. SOme questions (I feel) are more blog subjects and I for one wouldn't wan to plough through an essay of material. There are a few Fetchies with lengthy profiles and I don't really read them!

*pops off to check length of profile*

Yours is perfect Irontubs! I just remember seeing a great long column somewhere, might have listed races (there's somewhere else for that!)

If the questions were running based, and could change such as "injured/active", maybe followers could get a notification that their buddy has changed their answer?

Favourite pre-race or post-race meal / refuelling option?

Training goals for the next month?

Who you’d like to have as a training/running buddy?

Favourite running location so far?

Favourite breakfast? (Ok so everyone would know my answer to that. Other pub chain breakfasts are available ;):) )

Favourite race?

Whose blog should i read and why?
Which thread should i follow and why?
If you could give a beginner one tip, what would it be?

Talking about adding to the profile page, I've often thought the training tag word cloud would be a good addition. It doesn't appear to be at all visible elsewhere apart from when you click on a tag in an activity.

Why do you run?

Why did you start?

I like Chrisity's suggestions and the point Mattglen makes about notifications if answers change because these will encourage people to perhaps explore more of the site generally and are more 'fetch-related.' I'd be sad if the questions were too similar to some of those that get asked as 'regulars' in the MotM interview as I wouldn't like to see this feature have the potential to 'devalue' if that's the right word, the MotM Q&A.

So if you want something different...

What impact has Fetch has on your personal life?

(which opens up a whole host of possibilities!)

What is your Mothers Maiden Name?
What was the name of your first pet?
What was the Make and Model of your first car?
Where were you born?
What are the three numbers on the back of your debit card?

That should cover it...

You've got great suggestions for Qs already, just commenting to "Like" this suggestion! I haven't updated my profile in 10 years (except when Fetch says you have to occasionally as a Christmas advent calendar command!) Profiles are very variable on Fetch. I like the folk who have updated with their current status, their goal, any issues, so Sigh's questions are ace. G

What are you running from ?

I've started using somewhere else to plot. I don't use it often anyhow, as I'm usually running/riding the same old routes.

Like I said to Ness a few days back, it’s not costing anything right now, so don’t stay away And I’d be happy for as many people as possible to use it

I rarely plot routes anyway. I do like elevation correction though! Surely Google aren't the only source of that?

Is there anything you can do with Ordnance Survey folks? I'm always getting spam, ahem, I mean useful communication, from them about how they want to support getting people out in the hills and what a great public resource they are. Could you do some kind of marketing mash up with them? "Free outdoor activity resource Fetcheveryone.com uses Ordnance Survey data to get people running, walking and cycling in interesting places" or somesuch? G

What a nightmare! The use of third party APIs always seems on paper such a wonderful idea, but as per usual you wind up paying for it, either with cash or by sharing your personal data to all and sundry it seems (Facebook I'm looking at you). Or for the truly free APIs, they reveal so little as to be useless (Spotify I'm looking at you).

Cut out plotting routes almost entirely. Only when my Garmin has a fit 😁

thank you Ian; I WILL plot out all my usual routes and save them rather than re-measure them twice a day as I do at the moment #sievebrain

I liked having follow roads enabled when I was playing Fetchpoint and wanted to plan a route. Or when I wanted a bit of variation in my long runs. Happy without it if you decide it's not a worthwhile investment once the price increase kicks in.

*rummages in drawer for marked piece of string and local OS maps*

Thanks for all your hard work with this. I’ll try and get all my routes saved in the next few weeks.

I used follow roads out of sheet laziness as regards clicking - I do quite a lot of route planning for RR group runs to try and ensure that our planned routes are suitable lengths, happy to go back to not following when the time comes though.

There’s nothing like a need to get home to make you run faster

any news on Satellite view?

I’ve been trying to remember to plan out my runs elsewhere. I’ve been using gmap-pedometer.com instead. Hopefully that way it’ll save the site a bit of money.

No one is going to mind you doing anything that keeps the site viable

@Daz - no, it’s not been a priority. Controlling cost comes first. Everyone welcome to visit this page to help with that: fetcheveryone.com/invite.php

@Ness - it’s not costing anything right now, so don’t stay away And when I do convert the route mapper to OSM, I’d be happy for as many people as possible to use it

Maybe you should open a sweepstake on 'how long before Google acquire OSM' ...
If I plan routes (rarely at GPX level), I use Bing maps with the Ordnance Survey option and snip and paste to powerpoint to good old A4. And a coloured Sharpie if really needed.

What Dio said.

You have been busy, well done

Well done. I like your creativity and if it zaps Google in the selfishes then go for it.

What Do I said!

Which free elevation datasets have you looked at?

Make elevation optional? I know my usual 3-miler up and down the river is flat, but would turn it on for a hilly run.

^^ makes sense - take device elevation data by default, with an option to update it from DEMs for those runs where it matters.

Ian - I totally understand the drive and need here but by taking the follow roads option off I think you’ve taken away the strongest feature from one of the best tools on the site. I’ll admit that I tried the strava beta one tonight as an alternative....

If everyone who used it donated a pound a month, we’d be golden. I can reinstate it until mid-July, but have to face the possibility that it’s just not viable after that.

Exciting stuff! As per my feedback, I'd like a summary of how I'm doing this year vs the same time in years past, from a mileage perspective. That would be great

Your relaxing mind seems to be a very busy place!

I'd like to be able to pick a specific/rolling 3 months, 6 months, year, and I'm a simple bear - I like nice simple line charts with a trend line that shows whether I'm doing ok, dropping off, or on a build....

I guess summarising the most popular training graphs into one image is what you're after? As for making it infographic-y, can you do stuff like on the distance badges? So represent distance ran on a map with a line of the right distance. I'd like total ascent, the de facto measurement there of course being 'Number of Mount Everests' which I imagine is easy to make an image for Definitely looking forward to this!

I’d like to be able to compare some of my running in terms of WAVA ..... looking at speed and times can be depressing as the years go on!!

I was thinking about something like this recently. I'd like to be able to compare training for specific races e.g. How much running (miles/time) did I do in the time period leading up to x race? How does that compare to the same race last year/ a similar race? Being triathlete I'd like to be able to run comparisons across all sports and also total training time which might include cross training that's non race specific.
How do I want to see it? In a way that makes it obvious what it means!

Good.

I think the previous 3 or 6 months leading up to a race would be good, perhaps this can be done off of the race itself but a date is good enough. I like the idea of keeping the type of runs together, long runs, intervals etc plus number of runs and distances...perhaps a 3D bar graph?

Cross training?

So long as the finished page doesn't have a big circular stain on it.

Am looking forward to the free cuppa with each view of the training summary, no milk in mine please.

Any way you could do a pace against HR graph to hopefully show improving fitness?

I'd love to see proper training load/recovery/performance information (derived from HR, HR zones, pace, intensity etc) although I do appreciate this is mathematically and computationally quite heavy! (but it would mean that I could potentially give Fetch some of the cash I currently for out to another service).
The other thing I'd suggest is rather than trying to build a series of graphs to suit everyone you build the reporting tool that allows people to select their own date range and data fields to build and save their own reports.

Amount of time spent running at different paces - not percentage. Also a full range as you do some sprint work

I find this page (https://www.fetcheveryone.com/training-analysis.php) the most useful one for looking at my training in advance of races. One extra bit of functionality which I htink would be helpful if to be able to chose the comparison race rather than only have the PB. I might wan to compare with training for the same race last year or to a run when I know I was in similar shape.

The thing I don't like about this page (https://www.fetcheveryone.com/training-analysis-graphs.php) is that the graph comparison aren't easy. some mileage charts have a y-axis which is different so lower milage is higher up on the chart. For the target race the results is the last X weeks and I think should be the same X weeks as the comparison race with only the weeks so far completed shown.

im glad you are doing the maths for us!!

Too proportional. Surely needs to be a bonus for a win, a bonus for keeping it close, bonus for a trouncing, and bonus for a super high score and double bonus for clearing all 225 squares? Ask 5 Fetchies, get 6 suggestions! G

I like the idea of rewarding the players for the number of squares covered between them, adds a cooperative element. But shouldn’t tied squares count then, which aren’t reflected in the score?

Also not sure about the middle bit for how close it as well as the square counting algorithm but we will see.

Roberto/.

Hmmm... another thing. I was on 1000 before today's update. I won this match but now I'm on 1050, i.e. I gained 50 points. I mean I'm not *complaining* but how come?

I replayed all the matches using the new rankings scheme.

Ah, thanks, makes sense. Although you couldn't replay the pairings of course

Can we have a losing bonus point for being within 7 of the winner?

And maybe one if we have covered more than 50% of all four quarters of the grid?