Heart rate

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paul the builder
paul the builder
Oct 2010
2:30pm, 9 Oct 2010
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paul the builder
You need to input your resting and mx HR figures in to the training log here on Fetch, then it won't be "undefined" anymore.

70% of working Hr (or WHR, or heart rate reserve, HRR - all the same thing) is a good effort level to be sticking to for easy runs. Try to think of it as a ceiling for the run, not just to achieve it as an average figure.

But - you'll need to verify what your max HR is in reality if you intend to stick at this. Formulae like 220 - age can be quite a few beats out, so it's worth doing a test. Painful but worth it - a speedwork session where you give the last couple of reps the absolute full kitchen sink, or a 5km race finished hard, or a sustained steep climb where you keep on pushing and pushing....
HellsBells
HellsBells
Oct 2010
4:33pm, 9 Oct 2010
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HellsBells
*possibly stupid question warning*

I'm following the Parker book and finding it really, really difficult to keep HR low enough - indeed today I stopped, picked and ate a handful a blackberries whilst trying to get it down enough!
Just about all my hydration during the day, and particularly before and after running, is tea. Could the caffeine be making a significant contribution to high HR readings? I really don't want to go through caffeine withdrawal if it's going to make sod all difference
slowfish
slowfish
Oct 2010
5:16pm, 9 Oct 2010
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slowfish
cheers PTB, very helpful - I'll plug the resting and max HR figures into my log. Good to know my easy runs are run at about the right pace, it certainly feels very easy at 9mpm. Will definitely strap it on for my next speedwork session or 5k race - love the "absolute full kitchen sink" line!! Brilliant.
Belper Bear
Belper Bear
Oct 2010
5:23pm, 9 Oct 2010
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Belper Bear
I totally agree with PTB.
According to the formula my MHR should be 169, in fact it's 191. If I used the formula, I could get over 70 % turning over in bed!
GlennR
GlennR
Oct 2010
7:06pm, 9 Oct 2010
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GlennR
HellsBells, writing as a regular caffeine abuser I can assure you it makes no difference, certainly not past the first mile. You'll just find it a lot easier to keep your HR down once you've been doing this for a while.
HellsBells
HellsBells
Oct 2010
7:44pm, 9 Oct 2010
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HellsBells
thanks Glenn - thought it was probably immaterial

good - decaff tea is horrid :-)
Jhuff
Jhuff
Oct 2010
7:48pm, 9 Oct 2010
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Jhuff
HB,

It is just a matter of your running technique at slower speeds improving over time. I am likely to get scolded in here for bringing this up but you might find looking into improving your technique to accelerate your learning curve. Here is an article that you may find valuable: posetech.com
HellsBells
HellsBells
Oct 2010
7:51pm, 9 Oct 2010
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HellsBells
Thanks Jhuff
I'm already half converted and have the POSE book :-)

Got some help from a very nice man in St Neots too :-)
SPR™
SPR™
Oct 2010
9:52pm, 9 Oct 2010
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SPR™
My HR Strap hasn't worked well since I changed the battery, keep getting silly fluctuations and Max HRs on aerobic runs of 190-200 :-(. Anyone had problems with Boots batteries?

Annoying not to have reliable stats to analyse.
Meglet
Meglet
Oct 2010
10:36pm, 9 Oct 2010
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Meglet
I had trouble with mine and changing the battery didn't work. I tried several batteries too. Contacted Garmin and theybasically said it was f***ed.

I've also linked spurious high readings with 100% polyester running tops, with the soft strap.

About This Thread

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Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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