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Jan 2017
8:10am, 13 Jan 2017
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paul the builder
SSLHP - I find a reasonable relationship between each bpm increase/decrease and pace. Typically about 4 sec/mile for each bpm. Don't compare on a run to run basis though, there's too much variation day-to-day as we all know. But when I consider average pace of my easy runs, my various 'steady' effort level runs, MP runs, and tempo runs - then broadly yes.
(I only really think in bpm terms, I guess there's nothing to stop me converting to % of either WHR or MHR. But I tend to work in my own bpm predominantly).
Gerp - no, I wasn't aware - is this a normal HRM thing for you? I assume you have verified manually that those numbers are, in fact, cobblers?
If I read your comment right - you get decent accurate readings from a wrist HRM but not reliably so from a chest HRM?
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Jan 2017
8:17am, 13 Jan 2017
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paul the builder
Gerp again - looking at that run of yesterday: changing the sample rate to its smallest value (10m) shows the HR graph still reasonably solid at that crazy 180-ish level (so one might think it plausible). BUT - the beats/mile trend *and* the cadence line: both look crazily spiky and highly implausible. You'd have to be stopping your run (and your watch) every 100-200m to generate graphs like that, I think.
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Jan 2017
8:35am, 13 Jan 2017
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GregP
PTB - yes, it's cobblers. I occasionally run with a Fitbit Charge HR or a Garmin Vívosmart HR on the other wrist to reassure me. Yesterday was solidly Z1/Z2.
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Jan 2017
10:00am, 13 Jan 2017
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GlennR
An exercising ECG would still be a good idea, if you haven't already done one.
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Jan 2017
10:04am, 13 Jan 2017
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larkim
I get completely dodgy data on a semi-regular basis, but don't let it worry me as I know that my HR doesn't feel like the graphs being drawn. Presumably most of us would be well enough attuned to our heart rate and effort without a HRM to get a sense if something was "wrong" and needed investigating?
(Not for a minute suggesting though that undetected irregularities may well be present even if we don't notice them)
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Jan 2017
10:11am, 13 Jan 2017
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GregP
What larkim said, although ITYP.
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Jan 2017
10:33am, 13 Jan 2017
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GlennR
You did read Gobi's comment on Smell yesterday, didn't you?
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Jan 2017
10:34am, 13 Jan 2017
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GregP
~looks blank~
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Jan 2017
10:35am, 13 Jan 2017
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GlennR
Same time as my quip about recovery.
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Jan 2017
10:39am, 13 Jan 2017
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GregP
I thought that was a throw-away quip also?
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