Heart rate

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Sep 2011
5:49pm, 15 Sep 2011
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Bazoaxe
Paul, that's what I am trying to work towards, currently I get a spike in mile 1 on most runs, and once that sorted out it takes a mile or two for me to get the HR just right, then the latter part of the run is usually in the right area. I will keep working to get all the run at the right intensity.

Tonight should be a good indicator as I am doing a mile with my wife which will get the 'HR spike' out the way and then into my 7 mile 80% max effort, so will be aiming to keep it all at 80% or below - appreciate its easier to keep an 80% run below target, but each run will be a further effort on the long road there !
Sep 2011
7:39pm, 15 Sep 2011
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puzzler
Mostly a question driven by idle curiosity, but in part driven by mrs puzzler starting doing a couple of runs a week, how long do you have to run in a week in order to get some benefit from HR training?
Sep 2011
7:51pm, 15 Sep 2011
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Bazoaxe
7.3 miles done at avge of 79.9% MHR and avge pace of 8:18mm.....I still had mile 1 spike as Mrs Bazo wimped out of her run. SPlits fairly consistent, but not all at sub 80% as was the aim

Compared with 7.9 miles on the same route last week (wee bit extra at the start) I had an HR of 80.4% nax and 8:18 pace, so almost identical runs
Sep 2011
10:05am, 16 Sep 2011
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BanjoBax
Puzzler - I'd suggest HR training can useful regardless. Can make sure hard runs are hard enough and easy runs are easy enough, running a couple of times a week means could just do all high quality, or if mrs puzzler is just starting out then all easy while building could be a good idea, or maybe 1 quality run and 1 easy long run. Only reason not to would be if mrs P found the structure off putting.
Sep 2011
11:23am, 16 Sep 2011
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P.E...
Puzzler I think the key is, it's stops you trying to smash each training session. People get overly obessed about hitting certain paces, which say if you are overly tired your trying to hit a heart rate as opposed to a pace which your legs don't/can't. If you can get over that as a new runner then you are learning sensible training. Might also avoid stupid injuries/illness etc.
Sep 2011
11:28am, 16 Sep 2011
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GregP
Great post, P.E.
Sep 2011
12:06pm, 16 Sep 2011
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Meglet
Absolutely agree, HR training taught me it was ok to run slowly, and that I could return from a run not feeling knackered. It also helped me to realise that I wasn't "wimping out" when it felt hard, my perception that something was difficult was real (ie because my HR was high) rather than just because I wasn't used to feeling like that. Its also taught me how to conserve the effort level on hills by dropping the pace right down, meaning I can keep going to the top.
Sep 2011
12:09pm, 16 Sep 2011
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GregP
Footnote to Meglet 8,172: "Are you watching, Mr Daniels and your Running Formula?"
Sep 2011
12:13pm, 16 Sep 2011
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Meglet
talking in riddles again Grep?
Sep 2011
12:15pm, 16 Sep 2011
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GregP
Not at all, Meggles. Mr Daniels offers one a pace to run at, and takes little heed of terrain or slopery.

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Maintained by Elderberry
Everything you need to know about training with a heart rate monitor. Remember the motto "I can maintain a fast pace over the race distance because I am an Endurance God". Mind the trap door....

Gobi lurks here, but for his advice you must first speak his name. Ask and you shall receive.

A quote:

"The area between the top of the aerobic threshold and anaerobic threshold is somewhat of a no mans land of fitness. It is a mix of aerobic and anaerobic states. For the amount of effort the athlete puts forth, not a whole lot of fitness is produced. It does not train the aerobic or anaerobic energy system to a high degree. This area does have its place in training; it is just not in base season. Unfortunately this area is where I find a lot of athletes spending the majority of their seasons, which retards aerobic development. The athletes heart rate shoots up to this zone with little power or speed being produced when it gets there." Matt Russ, US International Coach

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