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Oct 2007
10:21am, 25 Oct 2007
1,413 posts
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Girlie
There , There, EP, I'm PMT woman, so I'll protect you! * Gives EP hug*!
Ok, been out for my run today.
3.01 miles
Avg pace 11:03./mi
Avg HR 146(69%)
So I may have sinned slightly as I was trying to push things closer to 70% and therefore overshot a few times and had to bring it back.
So close to that 11:00/70% barrier. Obviously not quite ready to break it!
Will go back to my usual shuffle next week.
Once again had only just got warmed up when it was time to go home!
1 more run until NY now!!!!!!
Any advice on keeping HR down at the start, I could do without the massive spike like at the GER.
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Oct 2007
10:24am, 25 Oct 2007
1,896 posts
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hellen
big, if you only did 0.87miles at hard effort then dont worry. That is more like an interval session with just one rep!! when I do intervals I dont always get to 85% on the first rep. If you had carried on then with more reps you will have hit 85%.
A tempo run is generally, I think 3 or more miles. If you had kept going at that effort for 3 miles then you prob would have got up to 85%
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Oct 2007
10:28am, 25 Oct 2007
1,318 posts
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jude
Girlie - I don't think you'll be able to keep it down at the start of the race and don't think you should worry too much. Just enjoy the first few miles. Try to keep your breathing steady and don't go too fast, maybe use pace as a guide here until you settle down? i.e. keep slower than 11.30..... Anyone else?
The alternative I guess is try to run to HR and keep it down but you may end up walking....
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Oct 2007
10:31am, 25 Oct 2007
1,897 posts
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hellen
Ignore what the HRM says girlie, jsut go at a pace which feels really easy. If that equates to below 70% then increase a bit but if it is 80% then ignore it and put it down to race nerves. You have done enough LRS to know what the pace of them feels like so dont be a slave to the HRM if it appears to give you odd readings.
I did two 20 mile races with it and it gave me normal, what I would expect readings, pace/HR was comparable to my training. I was not really treating them as a race. But as soon as I get to my marathons, within the first mile HR is going crazy even though pace is really slow.
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Oct 2007
10:31am, 25 Oct 2007
802 posts
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bigleggy
ah ok H thanks - I think I've got some training to do before I can run for 3 miles at that pace !
In fact I've got some training to do before I can run two reps at that pace, I was pooped by the end of it 
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Oct 2007
10:40am, 25 Oct 2007
1,755 posts
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eL Bee!
bigleggy - get some more General training in before you add in the speed
Don't get yourself an injury in the pursuit of a few seconds per mile!!!! And hellen is spot on - too short really to get your HR up!
Girlie - ingore your HR at the start and for the first mile at least - but make sure that you DO keep the pace down in that first mile, or you'll suffer for the overexcitement at the business end of the race!
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Oct 2007
11:03am, 25 Oct 2007
1,414 posts
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Girlie
Cheers guys. I've got this excellent spreadsheet with paces etc on that Buff Daddy or Controversial found the links for( can't remember which one it was!) and that suggest a slow pace for the first mile as it is up the first bridge( 11:30/mi), then it settles down to anything between 10:30-11:00) for the rest with the other bridges being around 11:00-11:30 pace.
The theory beign that should bring me home in 4:45, although I know anything can happen on the day.
Will try to keep the 4:45 pace guy in sight all times as well, so I can maintain a steady pace.
This isn't intuitive to me yet, as it's the first tiem I;ve run so far, so want to make sure I enjoy it and don't crash and burn at 15-20 miles.
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Oct 2007
11:04am, 25 Oct 2007
11,205 posts
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Hendo
Mr Bee - please tell me you were being tongue in cheek ref your comment about catching up with yesterday's postings on this thread?
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Oct 2007
11:28am, 25 Oct 2007
803 posts
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bigleggy
Cheers eL Bee - I've been plodding for over a year now - just wanted to know what it felt like to speed up a bit and to see the effect on HR. I was most perturbed when it stayed as low as it did. At least now I know why
Back to plodding for me !
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Oct 2007
11:38am, 25 Oct 2007
1,758 posts
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eL Bee!
Hendo - I wasn't!
I think it all went a bit far!
Just my opinion - and it wasn't aimed at me.....
But one persons Fun, can be another persons victimisation.
I'm sure it wasn't meant that way - but that was how I perceived it!
When ir comes to it Parker is ONE way of training - and not necessarily the best - and even to jokingly berate someone for doing something without the limitations of the structure, smacks of Cultism!
And there is no place for that here!
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