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Sep 2013
1:51pm, 7 Sep 2013
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GlennR
Rosehip, from memory Parker's novice plan (I'll hop upstairs and get the book in a minute) is five days per week and is essentially what I wrote above, with easy runs on two of the rest days.
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Sep 2013
1:53pm, 7 Sep 2013
8,158 posts
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GlennR
...and of course you're expected to work up to about 20 miles per week before you start. With Hadd it's 50 but that's a whole other world of pain...
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Sep 2013
2:28pm, 7 Sep 2013
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rosehip
I leant my book out, but I wasn't thinking of 20 miles as "volume" since if can do 20 it can't be that much - IYSWIM 
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Sep 2013
2:34pm, 7 Sep 2013
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GlennR
You're all set then Rosehip.
My point is that a lot of people start worrying about heart rate when they should still be thinking about working up to twenty miles and five days per week.
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Sep 2013
2:36pm, 7 Sep 2013
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rosehip
ah got it
sorry for the thread diversion
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Sep 2013
2:47pm, 7 Sep 2013
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FR
First week back. Over six days just run slightly more than a marathon @ 8:28. But does include two 5ks when I've averaged quicker than 7:10 pace A gentle run tomorrow will see more than 30 miles accumulated with not a great deal of effort :£
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Sep 2013
3:13pm, 7 Sep 2013
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Bazoaxe
Glenn. I've never experienced pain in Hadd training. Nothing in the base phase even approaching tempo effort o. I am now however doing ten miles sub lt at 80% max at the same pace I ran a marathon in April but with 15bpm to spare.
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Sep 2013
3:39pm, 7 Sep 2013
8,164 posts
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GlennR
That's not a diversion Rosehip, it's what the thread is all about.
Bazo, for me running 7.5 hours plus a week is de facto pain. I'm too soddin' old.
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Sep 2013
3:41pm, 7 Sep 2013
5,960 posts
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Bazoaxe
The more you do (at the right intensity) the easier it gets.
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Sep 2013
4:54pm, 7 Sep 2013
494 posts
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Revbarbarag
Blimey, I go to an all day meeting, and you lot get all technical on me!
Two things - 1) who is this Parker of whom you speak, and what's his book called?
2) Prior to spraining my ankle, the largest weekly mileage I had done was 19, with low to mid-teens being more usual. I was running 3 times a week. The week I sprained my ankle, I had just instigated a plan to run 4 times a week, building the total from 15 to 20 over the course of August, then building to the mid twenties by the end of September. Obviously, that was set back by spraining my ankle, but I'm about to go on the 4th run of this week, which should bring me to about 15 miles.
I intend to build up mileage gradually from there, but was planning on sticking with 4 days running, 2 days in the gym, one rest day.
Why? Because I'm an old codger with dodgy knees, and I'm being careful.... and listening to my body. And, I've discovered since the ankle has forced me to run slowly that running slowly is a LOT easier than running quickly. It's a lot easier on my body. But I have a flaw.... I'm rather competitive.... so I need some sort of target or hook to keep me running slowly. Otherwise I'll be off doing tempos and intervals, and ate likely injuring myself.
Just seems to me that anything that encourages me to slow down is A Good Thing..... as I've more chance of building up the mileage I need by going slowly than quickly.
Right.... I'm off for a run.
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