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Oct 2008
7:38am, 9 Oct 2008
7,482 posts
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You only need to read the first page of the first chapter to see what P&D mean by Advanced Marathoning.
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Oct 2008
7:45am, 9 Oct 2008
247 posts
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Pricey_
If I recall (and it's been a while since I read the book), as Jacobi says, the books does clearly state the target audience. I have a feeling it even mentions those aiming for sub 3 hrs???
But as has been said, thast doesn't mean others can't benefit from some of the guidance.
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Oct 2008
7:51am, 9 Oct 2008
506 posts
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B Rubble
I think the most important bit is that it is for those "..........COMPETING in the marathon, as opposed to COMPLETING the distance.........."
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Oct 2008
8:20am, 9 Oct 2008
7,483 posts
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The book doesn't state sub 3 hours. One of the chapters which talks about paces for long runs goes up to the pace someone looking to finish in around 3:30 should aim for though.
As BR says, it is not for people who 'just want to get round'.
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Oct 2008
9:11am, 9 Oct 2008
6,453 posts
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Homer
It depends what you want ....if you feel you are RACING the marathon rather than RUNNING the marathon then the time is irrelevant and the book can work.
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Oct 2008
3:48pm, 9 Oct 2008
242 posts
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Surely it's for someone who is trying to achieve their potential in the marathon. I have chosen this book to follow with the intention of running a 4 hr marathon. I have ran 3 flat road marathons in times of 4.19, 4.15 and 4.10. Obviously my training needs a different and more serious approach if I am to improve this greatly.
I agree that some of the runs may need shortening though to prevent too much time on feet and possible injury.
A 4 hour marathoner is COMPETING and RACING and SUFFERING and TRYING just as much as a 2.30 marathoner if that is their ultimate potential.
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Oct 2008
3:53pm, 9 Oct 2008
7,517 posts
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It seems we all in fact agree
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Oct 2008
8:22pm, 9 Oct 2008
248 posts
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Pricey_
you could argue a 4hr marathoner suffers more than a 2:30 marathoner as they are suffering for 1:30 longer :D
Another incentive to run quicker 
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Oct 2008
8:50pm, 9 Oct 2008
30 posts
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brighton belle
I've read the last few posts about who the schedules are suitable for with interest. I followed the 18week 55miles schedule for my first marathon this year and managed to finish in 3:36. Based on the previous comments about time and experience I might have been better off not using Advanced Marathoning yet I found it really good for me and as I was doing about 35 miles a week before I started I didn't feel the mileage increase was too challenging
So, for my next marathon should I try a different plan?
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Oct 2008
8:55pm, 9 Oct 2008
249 posts
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Pricey_
BB, 3:36 is a decent time, even more so for a female. If it worked for you, stick with it.
I believe that you will generally always need to change you training in some way if you want to continue improving. If you only ever do what you've done, you'll only get the same result. If you add mileage, or speedwork, or something else, you should continue to improve. If you stick with the same schedule, you may improve a little, but the improvements will slow.
If you did the 55 mile schedule, why not try adding a few more miles? Alternatively, stick with the same mileage but add more quality. Depends on how much time you have available and whether you're from the quantity or quality camp.
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