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26 Feb
10:04pm, 26 Feb 2025
26,748 posts
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larkim
I'm not making such a narrative. I'm saying it's a possibility as things pan out. As jda says, it's not really clear at the moment.
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26 Feb
11:10pm, 26 Feb 2025
47,168 posts
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SPR
Yes, but as jda also said there's a how. We've already established that Ukraine offered a mineral deal because they thought it would entice Trump. There's no reason for Trump to be praised for twisting the knife before signing a deal, whatever its contents.
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8:01am
8:01am, 27 Feb 2025
17,966 posts
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Ally-C
That’s the Tate brothers on a private jet to the States. I wonder if they’ll get a meet & greet from the sex offender in chief.
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8:17am
8:17am, 27 Feb 2025
32,074 posts
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richmac
Just caught up on the Gaza video, wonder what his fundamental Christian fan base will think of it given the first commandment?
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9:02am
9:02am, 27 Feb 2025
28,307 posts
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Dave W
It appears that fundamentalist Christians aren’t really very christian. If they will vote in their millions for a lying thieving divorced philandering sex criminal then they really need to go back to Sunday school and have another read of the bible.
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9:07am
9:07am, 27 Feb 2025
26,749 posts
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larkim
The problem with the critique of the "how" is that it still isn't clear that the US has actually got anything new from the approach.
Obviously that flies in the face of my "praise" for Trump unblocking things - if his attempted how has had no impact, then clearly he gets no praise unless the very fact of him creating "noise" around the issue has managed to get everyone to a position where things move. The speed with which Zelenskyy appears to be moving to get the deal agreed suggests that most of it was already pretty well concluded or agreed anyway in advance of the Trump shenanigans.
He'll take any "credit" anyway, that's his ego centred approach.
Ref the Tate brothers. Hope justice gets served, but doesn't appear likely now.
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