Jul 2022
9:16am, 9 Jul 2022
19,366 posts
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Chrisull
And one of the things they don't like about him is his voice and his facial expressions. And as voters they will help decide the next election.
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Jul 2022
9:27am, 9 Jul 2022
212 posts
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OverTheHillToo
I like Starmer. He seems like a 'proper' politician. And enjoy him destroying the current PM who relies on throw away lies to distract.
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Jul 2022
9:43am, 9 Jul 2022
17,536 posts
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rf_fozzy
Yeah, I'm surprised he didn't have ENT surgery and to make his voice sound more acceptable to more people. Perhaps go for a deep baritone. /s Honestly. |
Jul 2022
9:54am, 9 Jul 2022
3,372 posts
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flyingfinn
So Starmer wants me to vote for him on the basis that he's saying he's going to do one thing (ie find a unicorn) but I've got to hope when he gets elected he does something else (ie get us back in the SM/CU, reinstate FOM etc)? Well as the saying goes there are only two sorts of hope, Bob and no hope. And to believe otherwise is just to vote for another type of unicorn. He's sold out and pitched his tent in the 'tory lite' park and that's exactly what he'll be if he wins. The argument will be rolled out that his democratic mandate was not to join the CU/SM so he'll stick with that. If politics in this country is to ever have a proper reset we need leaders with the courage of their own convictions and the ability and honesty to explain those to the electorate. Starmer isn't that man, he's just playing exactly the same pathetic games as the Tories. |
Jul 2022
10:16am, 9 Jul 2022
19,162 posts
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richmac
For me simply put, do I think life in this country would be better under anyone but the Tories? Answer yes. What can I do to help make that happen in the area where I live and vote? Vote labour, to vote LD or Green might let the Tories win and that would be the worst case scenario, if I lived in an adjoining ward it would be a more difficult calculation. Do I want to rejoin the EU ?. Of course I do, is that the be all and end all of life in this country right now? Of course it isn't, would voting for a party that is campaigning on pretty much that ticket potentially damage the chances of getting rid of the Tories?.yes it might. Fuck it, I'm voting Labour then and we'll deal with rejoining the EU when the time is right, until then let's settle for fairer taxation, better services etc etc. |
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Jul 2022
10:33am, 9 Jul 2022
1,151 posts
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fuzzyduck79
Hooray, more income inequality: theguardian.com Average PwC partner earnt £765k before the pandemic, £1m+ this year. Wonder how much tax they pay on that. I'm sure they are worth it and contributing very important things to society as a whole. |
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Jul 2022
11:53am, 9 Jul 2022
3,214 posts
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JRitchie
Fuzzy all the UK partners will pay the same rates of tax as you and I. Also partners are personally liable for losses (unlike CEOs who are employees / office holders). The partner profits spiked this year because they sold part of the business (as the article said). Don’t agree with the last sentence. I’m not a partner but happy to explain why all the bloody hours that I put into my job bring some value and benefit to my clients. |
Jul 2022
12:22pm, 9 Jul 2022
9,505 posts
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simbil
Don't Partners pay capital gains tax rather than the regular tax you and I pay? Not a tax expert, but assumed that would be how it works as they are more a slice of the company rather than a normal employee. There are lots of reasons why some jobs pay more than others - deciding how fair that is depends very much on your values and outlook, but doesn't really depend on how hard you work - plenty of very poor people work all hours. But anyway I think the focus on the left should be bringing people up rather than bringing people down. The old class war stuff is a huge turn off for swathes of voters. |
Jul 2022
12:44pm, 9 Jul 2022
27,751 posts
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Johnny Blaze
Funnily enough Tony Blair said on the Campbell/Stewart podcast that he considered Brexit a settled question. Do I think he believes that's it in his heart of hearts? No. The old xenophobes will age out and the youth will draw their own conclusions on the success of Brexit. One day we will be back. Nothing lasts forever - as Bozo found out this week. Punting that useless twerp was a significant step back to normalised relations with the EU. We'll get there one day. |
Jul 2022
12:45pm, 9 Jul 2022
2,134 posts
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Ally-C
Someone told me years ago the biggest enemy of the working man was the working man. In recent times the most worrying aspect of lots of conversations around possible & current strike action, was I don’t get that, why should they? Whether it was a wage rise or certain t&c’s. Aye bringing everyone down to the lowest level is a great fecking idea. Aspire to their contract if it’s better, don’t bring them down to a worse one. |
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