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SPR Jun 2023 6:26pm, 7 Jun 2023 40,778 posts	0 SPR This is interesting regarding how important Leach was and the job replacing him is: "However, that theory is debunked by the enhanced role Leach has played in England's run of 11 wins in 13 Tests. He is the only bowler to have played in every match, sending down over 1,000 deliveries more than any other man." bbc.co.uk
NDWDave Jun 2023 6:59pm, 7 Jun 2023 18,262 posts	0 NDWDave Well. Still 28 isn't too bad for an opener/middle order/lower middle order/pinch hitter with 195 wickets. Brearley 1442 test runs! He has taken a bit of flak as he isn’t quite good enough to be locked down in either role but as a package he is way better than say a Graeme hick, Ashley Giles or Monty Panesar
SPR Jun 2023 8:11pm, 7 Jun 2023 40,779 posts	0 SPR Monty Paneaser was pretty decent and easily good enough to hold the spin role down. He'd have had more tests if his competition wasn't Swann at his peak.
SPR Jun 2023 8:13pm, 7 Jun 2023 40,780 posts	0 SPR Thing with Moeen is he didn't really see himself as a front line spinner and thought he was a batter and I'm sure that contributed to confidence issues at times and added pressure.
SPR Jun 2023 8:14pm, 7 Jun 2023 40,781 posts	0 SPR *Panesar
Oscar the Grouch Jun 2023 8:24pm, 7 Jun 2023 6,123 posts	0 Oscar the Grouch Monty would have been fine if he could bat or field. Since he was useless at both, his opportunities were limited.
SPR Jun 2023 8:36pm, 7 Jun 2023 40,782 posts	0 SPR Swann was also the better bowler TBF so with his additional skills, it wasn't a tough choice in hindsight.
Surrey Phil Jun 2023 8:59pm, 7 Jun 2023 9,452 posts	0 Surrey Phil I still have memories of John Emburey and Phil Edmonds grinding out the lower order in the 1985 Ashes win.
rf_fozzy Jun 2023 10:20pm, 7 Jun 2023 20,196 posts	0 rf_fozzy Panesar at his best was a top bowler. But as said above his fielding and batting, although both improved, were severe weaknesses. Plus swann came along.
rf_fozzy Jun 2023 10:21pm, 7 Jun 2023 20,197 posts	0 rf_fozzy But it should be said it was the pair of them that won that landmark series in India.