fetcheveryone

I know how to add events as do it often but is it possible to have a feature where you can add multiple distances at the same time? Currently i have to stick in all the same data again with the right distance/costs. name, location, weblink all the same normally.

I found adding the first event very straightforward. Adding the second distance, not so much. The date was pre-set to 1 July rather than the same date as the first one I added. That ought to be an easy fix.

Feel free to delete them both as soon as possible in before anybody expects me to organise a really cheap 5k and 10k.

All worked well for me, adding the second event was straightforward

That was pretty simple - although I've added events before. I don't think I had appreciated that if you copy a listing, you can change the distance, so I did the 5k that way, and then edited the title only. The option to do that was pretty clear. All done on my lap top - did you want a phone test as well?

As Goofee said, adding the second distance was very straight forward for me too

easy-peasy, but then again I've done this before. 2nd event was easy as well

I've done before -

from ipad this time, the only bit I've had trouble with is editing the name of the shorter event, I needed to delete and re-write just to change distance - can the box be bigger?

I've created events before for new races. I copied the new race entry listing and changed its distance to 5k, so very easy to do.

OK, getting started was a little awkward (on mobile, chrome browser) as I went to Race Finder first, and there was no obvious way to add a race until I went back up to just the Race page.

After that it was pretty straightforward, it quickly found my race location, and copying to a second race was simple, although perhaps when confirming the first race is added there could be a button to add another distance?

Hi Fetch,

I've added races in the past and it has seemed reasonably easy. I've also added several events that were part of a series of races. The option to "copy listing" worked really well.

The one thing I found a little tricky was when a race I'd listed had to be postponed. I've highlighted it in red on my list in this screenshot....



I couldn't work out how to change the date when a new date was given by the organisers after the original date had passed. I ended up having to leave the December date and create a completely new race entry for the March revised date. Perhaps it was something that I did. I'm not sure. 🤷‍♀️

I found it pretty straightforward, but I've done it several times before. Nonetheless, I managed to miss changing the first race to "trail". Tte least obvious thing perhaps is the actual text and link to add a listing in the first place. Maybe there should be a [BUTTON]?

Seems pretty straight forward, done from my mobile. I think making it more obvious where adding a race is would help. Could it have its own link in race drop down menu?

I think I managed to do that - although I probably didn't read the instructions well enough! I initially put in the date as 31st June (just because I could!) And it then saved it as 1st of July (when I probably meant 30Jun) [yes, I was deliberately trying to break it]

I found it reasonably straightforward - once I'd realised that I needed to add a second event with a different distance, rather than adding a second distance option to the same event. [And completely missed that it was supposed to be a trail race. Ah well.]

That is extremely cool *applauds*

Ooh. Nice

Top work. Even with any flip flops! G

I like

It Didn’t work at all in this one Ian

fetcheveryone.com/training/23301597/cadence

It does a good job on my run walks. That'll save me faffing about with clicking buttons in the future - thank you

@bowman - looks like your cadence doesn’t drop below the 140 I mention above. It’s set up to detect running versus not; but not running versus faster running.

I'd be the same as Bowman, most of the intervals / reps I do are ones with jog recoveries, so wouldn't fall under 140, and I've got a reasonably high cadence anyway so wouldn't expect much lower than 160 for jogs. But if there was a slider to set the cut off point, I could see that working.

Ah i see fetch, i misses that part, sorry

LOVE THIS

I had a look at the two efforts and recoveries sessions I did this month and found the same as Bowman, then re-read the blog and realised why. Same reason - I do jog rather than walk recoveries. My typical walking cadence is also over 140 so the cadence tab doesn't pick this up as Not Running on the few sessions of jeffing I did last year. I agree with larkim that being able to adjust the cut-off would be useful.

very nice 👍

Works for me, probably as I walk recover. Also, more interesting you can see little differences in my cadence between lengths of efforts and particularly over a mile, but they didn't necessarily tie up to pace, so, wind, shortening stride. The changing pace is more noticeable, but the cadence is useful.

Ohhh!

Sexy!

Running in flip flops isn't recommended.

Very cool… almost makes me want to run/walk to see it in action

yup thats cool

It had a bit of a meltdown on this one fetcheveryone.com/training/23233005/cadence - I assume just too noisy? There are 5 splits in one second at 4:23:49 for example.

Cool. Off to check my track sessions, which are pretty much 'all-or-nothing'

I've used it on this week's track session where I didn't record the splits on my watch, and your tool has done a really good job -

fetcheveryone.com/t-23293785

I like that a lot, bravo Sir and to The great dollop for suggesting it too

Great idea. Very impressive! 🏆🏆🏆

F me, it works !! Bravo Fetch ! (all my countryside runs across fields and interval runs across them to the next gate will now be revealed in their true efforts). Great programming dude.

p.s. you need to make sure you IP protect this before the orange men copy it.

Pretty lonely here in Munich, I'll do it by myself 😂

Looking forward to this day of madness

I think I'm probably out. I had already reduced my target from 24 to 12 hours due to lack of fitness, now I think I might have covid

If I'm feeling better I might just start and see how many laps I feel like doing with no target

I'm planning on doing the daylight laps outdoors but the over night laps on the treadmill - i assume this is ok ? Also you've said midday or earlier ..... so will if i started at say 10am do those count or not ?

Yes they count

im still unsure how my logistics will work but i will make some kind of madness up

I'll have to give up on the idea, 100km running this year and strict instructions only to increase physical activity gradually do not add up to relentless laps!

I've bowed out now rather than face the prospect of falling over later. I hope everyone has fun!

I have only the vaguest idea of how I’m going to make this work, given than I’m home alone that weekend and have a large menagerie to look after at the same time, so it will be an entirely solo effort, but I’m still planning to have a go. I may crash & burn in short order but what the hell 😂

I'm definitely 'in' but have reduced my lap to 1 mile rather than 2 per hour. But I'm hoping to get a Half done!

I've also realised i'm going to annoy folk on that other orange site logging a 2 mile run every hour rather than a much longer run ......... i might look at wearing 2 watches and recording with a pause ........ once uploaded to fetch then delete from garmin as i'd much rather, fingers crossed be recording a 48 mile run than 24 x 2 ....

Oooops. Was trying to filter to see who near me might be participating and seem to have accidentally added myself - please delete!

There’s a button at the bottom of the list to delete yourself.

Thank you. Hadn't read that far!

Good point Gromit makes. I was planning to do it all as one activity, pausing each hour. Won't be contending for the win, but is that going to mess with your logging, fetch?

Yes I see it would from your earlier blog

Nah, it’ll be fine. Keeping it low key

👍

I’ll have to bow out now as I will be recovering from a very long ultra all being well 🙏

I've plotted a 5k route trying to minimise hills and plan to go daylight running (8am-5pm inc). 10 laps to bag 50km

Anyone who wants to come to Borkel is welcome - we can plot pretty route lengths easily enough, but only have one spare bed for someone to stay over 😂

Had to bow out sadly, was looking forward to it but the little one has an MRI on that day now so running fun will have to be postponed.

errr Boss ... if I put @ I don't get the box but if I do " I do!

Oh this is much easier

Ah ok. Must be specific to my keyboard layout Bear with, should be a relatively quick fix.

I think it's the difference between UK and US keyboard layout...

Sounds like it. Pesky Americans

And it will be nice to be able to tag um now

Noice. Thanks.

I've hopefully fixed the keyboard layout problem now...

Will it also work in blogs and blog comments, or just in a forum post?

It's just forum tagging right now. A lot of folks were missing the 'Tag User' button, and found using the '@' symbol more intuitive.

Nice implementation!

ohhh I like this!! Great work Fetch.

Not sure this works on mobile. Or at least, not my mobile

@UM : )

Which mobile do you have Jamie?

Samsung S23 Ultra. It's quite possible it's me being useless if I'm the only one not able to play

Do you get the popup when you press the 'Tag User' button above the forum textbox? Just wondering whether my code is not detecting your @ symbol, or whether the whole thing is falling down for you.

Yes, pop up popped up when I hit the button, but it didn't react to an @

Ah ok. If it works by pressing the button, you have an option I guess. I've got an Android phone here I can do some testing on - I might be able to replicate the problem.

I got the box when writing a "2" yesterday

Can confirm @ isn't working on a Google Pixel 7 Pro so suggests an android issue.

But not today

Charging up my old Android

Am I going to be tagged all over now? I thought I was safe

Randomly tagging @LindsD Sorry, not sorry Linds! Well done Fetchster. G

Oops, NOT in comments. D'oh!

Jamie and SPR - it seems that with both the Samsung and Chrome browsers on Android, when the user taps a key, one has to go round the houses somewhat to establish what key it was. My code was listening out for '@', and your browsers were just shrugging at it. But it should be working ok now - even if both also have an interesting interpretation of "open a popup in the middle of the screen" *rolls eyes*

Oh thank you! I'll play later!

Can confirm, this is now working for me

Can also confirm it's working for me now, thanks.

oh, bravo, bravo!! Thank you....

Thank you, works well for me.

um is going to spend a few days being tagged by EVERYONE.

wow thank you!

Ah. Thanks, Fetch. I thought I'd broke it. 🤪😂

Just to be a pedant, doesn't it say 'Remove me'? 😉 I'm afraid to try it out!

Seems to have worked for me

I’m ready for deletion, to be honest.

I am no more. Thank you

Another time just not the right day/time

Thanks Fetch. I have removed myself as I shall (hopefully) be in Disneyland Paris, where these sorts of things are frowned upon, I believe.

Updated, making the number of laps more realistic.

Just realised I'm on-call that Saturday so will withdraw. Not as fit as I hoped either.

I’ve removed myself too. We have friends visiting that weekend - that’s my excuse anyway 😅

I have removed myself but I still appear on the list

I'm in

I have removed myself as I have a league race the next day.

Ooo, I'd forgotten about this.

Haven't gone for a run for... Months? But there's a nice 1k-ish loop from my house so this could be a 'fun' way to break in the new running shoes that are still in their box.
Once the results are in could there be the option of a F'Laps medal for participants? If there are enough wanting to make it economical, of course.

Aw thanks, Fetch. I had already blogged about this not being a good idea for me just now but I couldn't work out how to take my name off the list. Will do that now.

I still think this sounds a fun challenge but know I’m not fit enough at the moment. I shall watch and cheer from the sidelines.

I wasn't sure at the time, and I'm still not

I’ve removed myself! I’m coming back from injury and just need to find my mojo

I don't think I was mad enough ever to think this was a good idea!

Fortunately I managed to remove the race from my portfolio a while ago. I'm starting to get back into better shape and didn't want this to change that situation! Better safe than sorry.

How do I reduce my hoped-for lap distance please? Do I remove myself then re-add?

I've removed myself as we're on holiday and i did the Whopper last weekend which was 11 4.2mi laps... Seem to still appear on the list though?

@LazyDaisy - if you re-submit the form at the top of the big list, it *should* update you. Failing that, try remove and re-add.

I'm still in and really looking forward to it. I'm going to have to start at 5am to be done by 1pm so as not to leave my wife with the kids all day.

As we are away for our wedding anniversary I am going to have to bow out, thank you for the reminder and get out of jail free card. Wishing all f'lappers good luck!

Thanks Fetch, I should have looked harder I've dropped down to 1 mile laps but still hoping to get a reasonable distance in. Aiming to start v. early!

I'm on the fence..... I may yet be a DNS, but I have no good excuse!

The remove me link doesn’t seem to be working for me…

I've plotted a 2k F'Lap just to be awkward.

And if there's a medal I think it should look like an athletics oval, portrait orientation, with 'F'Laps 2024' emblazoned across the middle.

I’m still on the fence, if I’m home that weekend I shall at least starts something- if there’s a local get together ….

Bunch of splitters! I'm still in, planning for 5km per hour, absolutely no idea how many I can achieve.

I've removed myself - I've a 5 mile race that afternoon!

Removed myself as I’ll be travelling across the country that day. I may do my on my own on a convenient day…i may not!

Updated, making target more realistic, especially as RD at parkrun that morning...

Lol at Raemondo 😂😂😂

Don't think I was ever in for this but I have a race that day, great idea though

Hmm. I still like the idea, and I need a hard weekend in July, but I'm running sound for an event the night before and I'll get home tired at 1am. 🤔

Cracking idea! What could possibly go wrong?

I've entered a backyard ultra with my club which also happens to fall on this day. Coincidence or not, I'm in. I will be sharing the run with a clubmate so we alternate laps. Event runs 9am-9pm but only we'll be running 6 laps each. Laps are the full 4.167 mi so 25 miles each. Our organiser has also included a final lap 'everyone runs' clause. Should be a good day as quite a few from the club are doing it in either solo, doubles or triple teams.

The only way I can get a few hours is if I start early (probably 5am!). Hope that's OK?

Yes that should be no problem. The only folks that appear to mind what time you start are maybe those who would like to be 'last person standing'. But I don't mind when you start really

I certainly won't be last man standing lol so they have nothing to worry about 😁. Unless I really get into it of course.... 😉

I see the power plays are starting already

Great! (Now do race finder and race adding)

I like this.

Please sir, can we have a toggle full screen option like we have on the Fetchpoint or Conquersize maps?

Am very glad that follow paths is now the default as it has always been frustrating it wasn’t.

"upthumb me"

Any easy way to do that on a Windows laptop?
*thumb*

👍

I like it, though I’d be quite happy to turn on follow paths every time if it saves you money 😁

Thank you Fetch! I don't mind turning on 'Follow paths' now the tab's in a sensible place!

Consider yourself 👍ed

I've been playing with detours a bit more - nearly got the hang on web. On my phone it's almost impossible to hit a purple dot as they stay the same size when you zoom in.

I never minded not having follow paths as the default - so might have to remember to switch it off now

No issue in moving buttons and happy that 'Follow paths' now defaults to On BUT - whatever you've done, it's no longer following *all* paths, just roads. Can we please have the facility to pick up footpaths, bridleways etc back - the plotter is of limited value in these parts without those. Thanks

I haven’t done that knowingly, but there’s a chance I’ve introduced a bug. I’ll check shortly.

Andy, Fetch - it's working OK for me, home and Lakes


Andy - if you're happy to, share where you're trying, and I'll see what OSM has
(I asume it will only pick the paths OSM says are public?)

Sharing the message I sent to Andy:

"One thing that *might* be happening is that I use two 'directions services' (the third party sites that provide a route between point A and point B). Each of them has a quota of free lookups, after which they either stop working entirely, or they start charging me. I primarily use openrouteservice.org (fixed quota), with the fallback being Google's direction service (chargeable after a certain number of requests). Given the extra interest in the route plotter yesterday, and with the default now set to 'follow paths', it's possible that I burned through my quota with openrouteservice, so Fetch switched to using Google. Each will have slightly different routing databases.

If that theory is right, then hopefully things will settle back to normal today, or maybe in the next couple of days once my blog disappears into the past. Maybe test a few paths today to see how it goes, and let me know."

Thanks for the feedback Fetch - I've sent you a response but the upshot is that it now seems to be working here again too. Obviously just a blip this morning and I'll keep an eye out for any recurring issues. As you were

Maybe it's time for a new icon *thumbsup*

It was always annoying scrolling up and down when having to turn the tracker on and off.

I'll come back to the challenge. Homework - needs a little time! I still try to use the "@" to tag people - and I've never done that on the RW forums! (I was only on there for a couple of years, pre-Fetch, early running life!). I think @ is pretty commonplace across MS products as well as in things like Jira etc..

Just had a go, not doing the exact route suggested.
I think getting to the route planner is fairly intuitive, but I've used it plenty before.
I did have to think where toilets and satellite view were and I'm not sure that would be obvious to others.
The toilet symbols are not that clear on satellite view.
I know how to clear mistakes, so no comment.
Export to GPX wasn't that obvious, but I managed it.

I failed to find any crop circles. Other than diverting via Pewsey ...
But everything else was fine*, but there again I do use it quite bit.

*although the OSM maps, here and elsewhere on the site do seem to take an age. I know it may not be in your power, but is there anything I can do to speed it up? (flushing cache, making a pot of tea while I wait etc)

And a warning that OSM does sometime have little glitches - paths that don't meet, bridges that can't be crossed etc. So if a route suddenly decides on a massive detour, it's probably just a small section that needs 'follow paths' turned off.

The tagging users I find confusing. Didn't realise there were toilets on here! I've used the route planner in the past and found it fairly easy to use and edit routes, I don't use GPX

Thanks for the explanation about the RW refugees. I shall look forward to making new friends.

With the route planner, which I use fairly often, I find the different places for various tabs a bit annoying - up top for some, down the bottom left for 'map layers' and 'follow roads', and top left for + or -. No idea how to find crop circles

1 - I didn't know there was a route planner, sorry. I had never looked.
2 - I didn't plot the route in your brief but I did plot my planned route for this Sunday's run.
3 - I found it really easy to use and not too fiddly considering I was on my phone.

4 - could find satellite views and toilets options easily.

5 - I wanted the total elevation, couldn't see that until I'd saved the route, so that's fine.
6 - found the option to upload to GPX, didn't do that as I don't use GPX.

Overall, loved it. I shall use it in future. Thank you

I use the route planner a lot, and can do most of those things. As LazyDaisy says, I get mildly irritated when the map stops following the path I want it to (I presume some of the paths I want to follow aren't recognised as paths, and there is nothing that can be done about this), and I have to scroll down to switch "follow paths" off, then scroll up to "undo".

I also find editing previous parts of the route I am creating close to impossible. But I might just be a bit thick.

I've done routes before fortunately, but never used GPX aspect. I may try this sometime...

I use it a lot and could do your task. The one thing that bugs me is 'follow paths' defaults to Off which I would like to see changed. Also, like someone above I have never really tried editing a map (I just undo to the point I want to change) so maybe that needs explaining a bit more.

@chunkywizard - The reason it defaults to off is one of cost. If I exceed my quota of "follow roads" (which is a third-party lookup), it costs money I don't have.

Route planning is all fine as far as i'm concerned, tagging users could be slicker and as for quoting people that's a mystery still

@jacdaw - not much I can do about the underlying route options. But you mention having to scroll to reach the buttons at top and bottom. Is that on a phone, or a smaller screen? I can certainly amend the button layout, or look at making the map less tall on smaller screens. As for editing - maybe that's for another day.

@lazydaisy - likewise I can look at uniting the buttons. The reasoning behind pushing the map controls to the four corners is that they are less likely to interfere with the action in the centre.

@um - I don't think I can do anything about the load time for the map tiles unfortunately.

@grast_girl - do you have any suggestions for alternate naming for the layers?

Maybe map overlays? I think I'd also separate the layers from the map source.

There's a width issue with that approach on mobile. The two existing red boxes use about 80% of the width of a mobile screen in portrait mode.

I use the route plotter all the time, never noticed the GPX button.
*Slaps forehead*
Learnt something new today. I shall try that on my own laptop at home so I can send the GPX on somewhere more useful!
The 'toilets' made me laugh too!

Thanks for the explanation about follow roads. That's the one thing that annoys me.

(I think this is a great idea, btw)

I've used the route planner a lot and can do your tasks easily although I've never needed to export a GPX and wouldn't know what to do with one if I had one (a GPX that is)

I use the route planner a bit - I knew about map layers for Fetchpoint purposes. I didn't know there was a Satellite option. I have never got the "Detour" (which I think is how you would fix mistakes) to work. And I haven't again today. Always end up with an extra loop with a blue straight line or none of the purple dots activating. Not sure what I am supposed to do. Or the detour ends up as a new point on the end of my route...

Frequently end up exporting GPX's between Fetch, Garmin and OSMaps until I've got what I want, on an app or device I can follow while I'm out.

On my Windows 11 laptop (too fiddly on a phone to even try), Edge browser.

OH HANG ON - I just got a pop up about eliminating the cyan line .. what is this sourcery? (Cyan, that takes me back to the ZXSpectrum!)

Yeah nope I've made a right pigs ear of that... I think some instructions would be lovely (Which Purple dot should I choose? Why did I only see the Cyan message once despite having a couple of goes at this?), or just picking up and dragging the dots (like Garmin Courses, sorry!) (Doesn't help that it defaults to Follow Paths being "Off" so invariably I will draw a straight line in the first instance).

@jacdaw and others: OSM mapping is all open source and you can go in and correct errors, join disconnected paths and add missing detail. You can edit maps directly or upload GPXs of runs to use as a template. https://www.openstreetmap.org/.

Happy with the various bits of the task but suspect it could be harder on a small screen (and another vote for the common UX of @ tagging users, and using > for quotation levels)

Oh, so THAT'S how you tag people. I've only been here since about 2006 and I was using the '@' symbol and wondering why it didn't work

I've used the route plotter a fair bit. But to answer your questions....

Do you know your way to the route planner? Yes
Can you figure out how to get the map to show your starting location? Yes
Is it obvious how you plot a route? I think so but I'd used it a lot already.

Can you figure out how to switch to the satellite view? Id forgotten it was possible to do that but found it quite easily.

Can you figure out how to view toilets on our plotter? Yes.
Do you know what to do if you make mistakes? Yes
Is it obvious how to save it? I think so.
And once saved, is it clear how to export it to GPX? I didn't do that bit. Will try it some time.

@fetch on a laptop at 100%, using firefox, I can either see the undo reset etc. butons at the top, OR the Map layers follow paths buttons at the bottom. But not both at once... unless I zoom the page down to 80%.

@fetch... did you just change it?

honestly, the route plotting functionality is the most powerful feature of FE. Now that you've added in the ability to overlay fetchpoint as well as conquercise I'm not sure how it could be better. I also *really* appreciate it that you made the changes so that it can be used much more frequently now - I'd say I use it 3 or 4 times a day on average. Perhaps it'd be better for you Ian if I wasn't a FE user?!

The tagging thing on the forums on the other hand. OMG, I try, fail, get pissed off and then give up. Every time....

Just to say I agree with Grast girl that export to GPX is not obvious.

Not ignoring the task. I’ve got a few busy days ahead 🤗

I’m up for this I’ll get the message out there.

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Love this.

What a great idea!

What a lovely tribute. And it was a great get together previously. RIP Oscar and thank you. G

Lovely idea

Nice

What a super tribute to Oscar

thank you Fetch and what a great way to remember him

What a super idea.
I we are encouraging friends, family etc to exercise as well, would there be a simple way of logging and recording this as well, to add to a total?

I’m in! (As I said on his blog!)
A lovely way to honour Oscar’s memory.

Great idea!

What a great idea

Great idea

Great idea, Fetch

🤗

❤️❤️

Nice gesture

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Love this, thank you

Lobe this 😊

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Love this idea

Just so I understand, what's the backend logic that chooses between "interesting" splits and "uninteresting" ones? If I used (say) 0.5m autolaps, would that be uninteresting? Or is it only if the watch laps are inconsistent?

It's only if they are inconsistent. It's a storage consideration - otherwise there are millions of e.g. (1,1,1,1,1,1,0.43). If your splits are consistent, you can just choose the relevant size from the dropdown.

That is awesome! Thanks!
I do miss the “best bits/fastest” boxes in the top I hope we can get it back.
Also I prefer to have splits divided between table and graph. And not everything together.
Then one can choose what to take up real estate with.

I like it!

a fantastic improvement, thanks!

I also like it.

I'm liking it but the 'watch' option vanishes if you split an entry. I often do a programmed workout that has warm up, session, cool down as a single run then split the entry so that I can compare the session part with other similar sessions. Would be nice to have the 'interesting' splits too.

I don't know if this has been mentioned already but I noticed today that the multigraph's y axis displays pace even when pace is switched off, don't suppose this could be made responsive? Otherwise the new page is much better 👌

Hi Fetch, not sure the interesting splits bit is working for me. This is an interval session but I’m still getting 1Km splits rather than the intervals

You have to choose ‘Watch’ in the drop-down.

Thanks, missed that. Can I make that the default (or can you remember the last chosen option?). A couple of other things. On the splits bar chart you number the intervals starting from 1 but this isn’t referenced in the text list. Could you have the same reference on both? The other thing I noticed is, if you click a bar then pace is displayed but the value is incorrect (it doesn’t match the text list)

Another request if I may. On the pop up on the bar chart and the text list can you display the interval length pls? For example in the pic below interval 19 is an 800m but you can only work that out by checking the difference between the distances.

The only thing that isn't perfect for me is what Westmoors described - losing the "watch" splits when the activity is split using the split/trim functionality. Programming an activity for the watch is great when actually doing a session, but stripping them down for reference later on here is really useful too. Would be great to have all of the same processing of watch laps etc done when an activity is split. Feature request needed?

Another thing I have noticed, on the multigraph the pace line finishes short.

Can you share a link to this training entry pls?

That one is fetcheveryone.com/t-23233313 but it appears to be on all my training.

For mobile, can the reorder training sections have a edit and submit button to prevent accidental changes like I just made?

Don't you just reorder them again? There are only about 8 of them I think

I couldn't remember what order they were in but I did order them back to what I thought they were minus the change I actually wanted to make.

Any thoughts about my first comment on this blog fetch?

I think having the benchmarks listed in three separate places is a bit more than the page can handle; and the more I think about it, the more I think the splits graph and table belong together, sorry. Maybe I could make you a special little Bowman button that would hide the graph

Ok fair enough, I’ll get use to it
Thanks!

I've decided I like this new version very much. Not as good on a mobile, though. The zoom is a bit erratic. But generally very good

My categories change place by it self all of a sudden?

I had that also

I was going to ask the same as Bowman, I like the splits graph, but not the table.
Will have to play with the 'watch' option, see if I have anything interesting.

Something has gone wrong with the watch split info for this in the data. The comments info is correct.

fetcheveryone.com/training-log-view.php?id=23244129

Btw, will we see our own order on all activity’s, or someone’s own order in their activity?

Yay loving having watch splits. Thanks for sorting fetch

I'm missing the "benchmark" buttons that highlighted the section of the activity that the benchmark was extracted from. (I often use them to see how much of the benchmark was down to my athleticism, and how much of it's down to Garmin's generosity...)

They are listed in Further Analysis.

I see the benchmarks listed there - but as far as I can tell, there's no way to get them to highlight the section of the route where the benchmark was achieved.

Ah, you need to look at the multi graph, and choose the relevant benchmark from the drop-down.

Got it - thanks!

I know which way I’d vote if we had PR rather than first past the post. And I know what colour of government I’d prefer at the end of this. But it’s more difficult to know how to vote locally to try to get that outcome.

+1 vote for Cats Whiskers

Undecided yet. Will definitely be consulting the tactical voting website to try and make sure my vote is purposeful.

I’m also undecided. I’m 99% sure I live in a safe Tory seat but I will use my vote regardless.

Got to vote tactically to get Jeremy Hunt out. However, I'm not sure I'm a natural Labour voter anyway. Green may have been my choice bar a few sticking points.

#geneticsocialist

Next do a graph of posts per person on that thread...

Morally I would like to vote Green, but my first priority has to be Tories out. We’re in the seat occupied by the Labour Chief Whip - so should be safe, but I’m not taking any chances.

P.S I do hope that all voters feel that they can state their allegiance on this site. I may not agree with your choice, but I will defend your democratic right to vote as you choose.

I'll be double checking re tactical voting too though sure it will tell me Labour over Plaid Cymru.

Went to a meeting of our local green party last week. There were 3 people there, one was our candidate, one was candidate for neighbouring area.

The predictions for a Labour majority are so confident that I’m happy the Tories will lose and we can all vote for whomever we wish.

I live in an historically massively safe Tory seat but apparently the lib Dems might just them this time so I'm with them all the way, would happily vote ABT though

My seat has see-sawed between Labour and Tory in recent years so I'm hoping it can go back to Labour. If it was a different party in 2nd place I'd be voting for whoever can beat the Tories. If it was a safe Tory seat I'd probably vote Green as a protest vote.

Dear Not Bothering People
Please do bother if you possibly can, even if it's to spoil your ballot paper with "none of the above, they're all corrupt and crap"

Thanks 😊

I'm a trade union member, currently at a union education course in fact which aligns me one way but I am also resident in a very rural part of the world and a parent to a 5yo which makes me lean between a couple of others so tbh, until I look through full manifestos and weigh them up, I'm not sure. Also highly aware of tactical voting necessity with the current system, sadly.

Nice reference to Kelis there Mr Fetch. I'm glad I'm out of it, if I was in I'd vote Monster Raving Loony Party

Sadly, Green have no chance of winning where I am; Labour have a very good chance. I'd be interested in swapping votes with a Labour voter in a Green target seat, if anybody knows one?

Interesting! I’m not big on taking about politics do the politics thread wasn’t even on my radar!

my constituency has been solidly Conservative for ever, I would like to vote for someone who will bring in PR and take us back into Europe, but think I have to vote Labour just in case of a miracle

Hoping that my constituency goes Labour for the first time ever (only formed in 1997).