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Nice!I like the coloured calendar entries but maybe they could take a solid colour based on the zone you spent the longest time in (or even how the run is labelled ie red for intervals/ race, orange for tempo etc - that should match the zones 'm guessing). Just thinking out loud! The other thing that would be nice (if it can be achieved without making things messy) would be to have WAVA showing with the trophies. For me I could then judge how good the effort is. I think I would take less trophies if they could have WAVA.

I think all my entries would be blue if I went with the majority colour - which would remove some useful detail IMO. Plus as per comments on previous blog, about 87% of training entries are General. WAVA should be ok though. Somewhere:-)

Looks good, I like the improvements.

WAVA ranking seems sensible. In terms of displaying the actual WAVA though, that only makes sense for races. Sharing WAVA scores for training training seems odd.

Is there anyway where a (non-benchmark) race distance can automatically become a benchmark on this? Or put another way, take race times first, then benchmarks?

I know you kind of have this on your list for the annual infographic so maybe you just haven't figured out a way yet?

I like the pie chart on each run showing the amount of speed in it. Average isn't very useful for understanding a run by itself.

Good improvements

It's looking good.

Like it. Pie charts are really useful to see the pace breakdowns by days.

Looks good, like the little pie charts and I think you were right about keeping the amount of information down to stop it looking too cluttered. Draws the eye to all of the key stuff.

I think it looks very good, well done!
As someone who is walking not running right now, it makes me really really want the option to tweak the colour bands for walking. But I am sure the last thing you want is another job to do!

I like it
Month Rank - it was your 60th highest month (I think that means) but would that phrase imply something different to people from the orange site?

That's what I meant by it - but I genuinely don't know what the orange site does, so I'm not sure what you're saying. Guessing they give a ranking compared to others, like we do on the main Train page?

I like it too, it shows almost everything I'd want to see at a glance in quite a user friendly view. Could you fit in the rank for best specific month too somehow? e.g.3rd best July.

CAn we please have a file to share on WhatsApp etc? I don't do Twitter or FB.

Why are some of the number cells yellow, what does that signify?

I like. A lot. Can we squeeze average HR on there too without cluttering it? I think it strikes a good balance between data and readability now. There is enough on there that people will read it when I share it - which I will!

Dio - I was playing about with trying to indicate where the 'trophy' times were recorded. Would be nice to have the trophies somehow have a connecting line through to the relevant date.

Linds - when I paste the URL to Whatsapp, I get a cropped version of the graphic. It's a bit tricky because they want a square 256x256 image, whereas everywhere else seems to work best with a landscape format.

Gooner - not technically difficult, it's more about space. But I will know more when I get coding and can see how it looks with real data.

I like it. Agree about month rank, June and July have been higher than normal for me as there haven't been any races

Personally, I'd replacement benchmarks with something like longest run, number of races at different distances, and month best.

Or given races aren't happening and if the focus is training, how about a training category summary (a small version of what's on the log) so category, number of runs and pace.

I'm assuming the run colour coding is based on pace? Not sure how useful that is on its own given a reps session or progressive run could have the same average pace as a steady run.

Rrunner - I thought about that, plus also cadence analysis (e.g. avge cadence in each pace band; avge HR for each pace band). Like I said to Gooner, it might become clearer as to what I can fit, when I've got a code version working.

I like it a lot. I think the stuff on the right is especially good 👍
I agree month rank might be taken to mean "you did the 60th most of anyone this month". Rather than think of a way to name it differently, I'd be happy to drop that, I think this graphic is fine with just info about the month without any comparisons (well, unless it was best ever!)

Will there be one each for running, biking, swimming or can they be combined into an Uber-boast?

SPR - regarding the categorisation, about 87% of the runs in the log during July are 'General', so a breakdown by category might not be useful for the majority. Do you mean the run colour coding on the calendar? If so, that's tied to the benchmarks (see my response to Dio).

Roberton - I'll see where I get to with wording
Angus - I've got as far as planning three red-, green- and blue-background ones for run, bike and swim. Haven't begun to imagine the tri version yet, but I imagine it'll be pretty colourful

This is great. I'm not sure how cycling might fit in with this. Could there be an option to look at your month in cycling/swimming/walking separately?

Fair enough Fetch, yes saw your reply to Dio after I posted.

I think the needs to be a option to decide what is shown as a 'trophy'. I'm racing two 800m races in August but at the end of August my infographic will highlight my 5k, 5 mile, 10k and 10 mile training pace. Same applies when I run 1500m.

Also a fair point SPR - I slung those trophies in because they fitted with my data, but in theory a wider range could be available. And perhaps the choice could still be auto-generated, by using age grading to work out which of your trophies were comparatively most impressive. Worth noting though, that because they're benchmarks and not race data, it might not pick up an 800m track race all that accurately.

G'hog - I'm planning on separate ones for run, bike and swim for now.

Fetch - I the previous annual infographic did override with race data if you deleted the benchmark and corrected distance? My 5k was always race time there (I delete all track benchmark times). What I was missing there was 1500m times as a race benchmark.

Yeah, the annual one does pull in race data. I'm working upwards from what I currently have in the monthly summary, but I think including race times would be very achievable.

I like it but also got confused by the yellow circles. Maybe put a trophy image in those circles that matches the trophy image above to make it more obvious?

looks good, and I like the suggestion of showing the best performance based on age-grade to work out the trophies to show. One thing another site does is to show the amount of distance done on each day on th calendar by either using a darker shade of a certain colour for the circles for longer distances or by increasing the size of the circle as the distances go up so you can look at the calendar and no only see when you can but which were your most active days. That would be nice.

Nice
Would there be room to squeeze weekly mileage total at the end of each full week ? Or would it look weird when nothing there for partial weeks ?

Like it. What percentage of people on the site measure cadence? Presumably those who don't will just get a 0 there. I've never looked at it as my watch doesn't record it. Or do you do some magic based on total steps and total time/distance?
Will look forward to posting on social media soon

I really like it!

Like this 👍

Thanks, Fetch

Oh, chapeau. I like that!

Very good running, and I love the tweak to the inforgraphic. I'd say 9:39 and 9:41 are near as dammit the same. I've also had my best month for a year, and 0.1 of a mile today or tomorrow will make it my best for 2 years, albeit quite a bit slower.

top work

I really like the monthly summary and this tweak has made it even better! Shows I've done 8k "in the red" this month against 1.6 last I must have been putting some effort in!

Well done for both!

I'd forgotten about this page, thanks for the reminder. How about linking to it from the month total on the main training page? At the moment that link goes through to the training log, which isn't really month-specific.

And well done for the running, and the tweak to the page

I likes it It shows that in the past 4 months my cadence has increase each month - that's got to be good right?

Love it ..easier to track the pace now and great to see where the improvements are. Thanks Fetch

That tweak is definitely very useful. Thanks fetch 😊

Nice!

very useful. with my current big mileage i have been concentrating on keeping my HR in Z1/2 and it is easy to see that i have seen a definate improvement in achieving this for the current month compared with the previous few.

I like this a lot. I really like the monthly summary, use it a lot - especially the benchmarks

I guess I'm in the minority as I don't like the tweak. The original bar could have been increased slightly in height and the mileage added above/below the percentage. It would then take up less real estate but still give the information.

Wm - it would bug me to see the information squished up if the relevant bars were too narrow.

Thanks Fetch.

Oh, I like that. Will aim to improve the picture for August

I like this. It doesn’t say that my fastest splits were on downhill routes.

I like how colourful it is 😊

Can you shows the zones based on HR rather than pace (it may be possible already and I just dont know how!!)

Thank you. This is excellent. Might need to adjust my pace zones - Z0 currently for the win!

Neat.

Like it

Seeing the development of the infographic, could the tweak be a pie chart instead of the five bars? You could then have one for pace bands and one for HR zones.

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Looking good here, all activities present and accounted for

Thanks for the update.

All my training had imported by about 7:30 this morning.

Intriguing - my activities have loaded up to Fetch but Garminge Connect says it's still down for maintenance.

McG - I suspect they want to process the backlog first before allowing more stuff in.

Nothing happening Garmin wise for me

Wait until later when I update mine .... It’ll crash the site 😂

Thanks for the update Fetch Can you tell us what FetchEveryone does to protect our data, and how you can protect this fab community from the kind of 'attack'/downtime that Garmin has experienced? I appreciate I may not understand all the technical jiggery pokery, but you normally have a way of making stuff like that very clear to us mere mortals. Is there anything we can be more sensible/cautious about when importing our data. Thank you, please

Everything accounted for from my backlog. I had to delete the manually loaded entries which created duplicates.

Scribs - it's a massive field, but here are some rules I try to play by:

1) minimise what gets stored. Back in the day, sign up used to include first name and last name. No use for it, so get rid. If the server is ever compromised, the attacker would find as little as possible.

2) one way encryption. For example, only a mashed up version of your password is stored. When you log in, the mashing process is applied to the password you use - and it just needs to match the stored one. But "fluffykittens123" is not stored anywhere in plain text form, so if you use the same password elsewhere, it helps to mitigate the risk of further problems.

3) server-level security. One area where I bow to our hosting provider. They keep the server up to date with the necessary software patches and security certificates. It's something they take pride in, and one of the reasons why I have used them for 13 years.

4) never trust user input. Every place where you get the chance to enter some data, it has to be checked to make sure it matches what is expected.

5) take backups. Each day the database is backed up, and these backups are kept for a set number of days. If we've ever had a problem, the most to lose is 24 hours of data.

6) don't ever stop monitoring. It's a 'mice and mousetraps' situation - so every day is a school day.

Thank you muchly Fetch

I think I must be bottom of the list

Just been on garmin connect, has message “looks like we’ve crashed” 😤

It's back now

Thanks for the update.

ah Fetch, why have you told Scribbles my password? Thanks for all you do to keep our data safe.

Thanks Fetch 😀

Now I am wondering if anyone in fetch has "fluffykittens123" as their password (or if anyone will now!)

Not me, I changed to keep it secure. fluffykittens124 now.

No Jenelopy, Ive changed it to fluffykittens321. No one will ever guess

Maybe add a badge for those who add a location...backdated please

one of my flagged locations was an open air swimming pool. By the look of the options you are not after these, is that right? The other was off a boat in Italy so I am not sure that is much use either!

Sigh, it he does that then the Italy one is going in the database!

lol

And if you put the dot in the wrong place - can you edit it? asking for a friend!!!

In fact a general edit facility would be good even if you get the dot in the right place to start with. I added a location that I know of but have never used so it would be good if others can come along later and add more details.

Have been talking about edit stuff on the OWS thread.

Cool, I’ll keep an eye out for edit capability and correct it then. It’s close at the moment and I’ve given it a website link to find details so shouldn’t miss lead too much

I've added some that weren't in the sea on holiday. One I have kept because it's secret and I don't want 50 people finding it

Lovin the notification updates. G

Women's size 14 vest please

Fmail incoming, Rosehip

Woman's size 14 vest if still available please

Fmail coming your way Mandy

Woman shirt 12 please

And fmail coming your way USB

Men’s vest large please!

Fmail on its way Goughy

wow, good estimation skills Fetch, looks like you gauged your order just right! They are great vests

Thanks CW, but by taking preorders, and just adding 1-2 here and there, it's usually like this.

Size 12 vest please if still available

Incoming fmail JEBbers

Could I get the Men's XL please?

Sure - fmail coming to you, Coggers

Fmail on its way DeaJay

With face coverings even more of a 'thing' now I don't suppose there's a chance of Avoid Everyone Buffs is there?

I am investigating. Ron Hill Specials sent me one, but it wasn't the seamless sort. I've sent them one of our existing buffs to see if they can do the same thing.

I was wondering if we could get their off cuts to make masks!

Don't suppose you have any swimming hats left do you? I've looked everywhere for mine this morning

Yeah, I reckon I do. £6.50? I still have your address from this morning

sorted

Can I request a women's shirt size 12 please?

Fmail on its way Nemo

Ooh there’s a 14 reappeared! Please can I take the women’s T-shirt 14 😃

I’ll put it aside for you Sue.

Is the size 10 ladies still up for grabs please? :0)

Hi Ange - yep, I’ll save it for you. Fmail coming your way.

Ooh. We'll be on Dartmoor on Sunday exploring a recommended location. I'll be watching this development with interest. 😀

Yes please!

you can use mine with a note that it's tiny and popular, having a nice shady and sandy beach.

If you find any for Knockburn Loch, Monikie reservoir or St Cyrus beach I’d be happy to vouch for them.

I love this idea

Ellerton lake, N.Yorks is legit. You even have to pay!
ellertonpark.com

This sounds superb.

Fab 👍👍

Where I swim behind the pub in Wakefield has been called Bob on the Facebook group and while not exactly official, everyone knows about it.

I've just received an OWS notification. I guess you're not looking for beaches?

I have added swims from beaches as well as the local reservoir swim. There are two locations where I can remember swimming which didn't come up. I can send training log entries for both if that would help. One a beach swim and the other a river in France.

fetcheveryone.com/forum-thread-search.php?id=53787&search=gower

Works well on names.

Brilliant

WS - funnily enough, David Gower was one of the terms I tested with I'm not even joking.

Seren - at least you can now re-read all those Sea Bear posts

Great minds and all that, well great players anyway.

Works with combinations of words too!
fetcheveryone.com/forum-thread-search.php?id=53787&search=Rhubarb+Boycott

Oh, am I suddenly famous?!

Ooh interesting! In searching my own name in the TYWTSBC thread (I don’t recommend it...) it takes me to more or less where people reference my name rather than the posts I make.

So, I asked on Smell for a search on IBS (weel-kent acronym for I’ve Been Swimming) and it also brought up items including *bibs* and *Scribs*



I don’t think I have an opinion, I just bring it as an observation. I like the search facility.

Amazing, I was looking for something recently from years ago and now I've found it! Thank you.

Max 40 results? In order of posting except when that goes wonky?

OTDIFH returns 3 results for "grouper", 18 for "pollack" and 40 for "sild" - although most of the last named are for "Basildon".

Maybe add more keywords?

PS, if you only use one keyword, what makes one post any more relevant than another? So it defaults to date order in that case. But if you add more keywords it attempts to work it all out.

You are fab

Likey! Great work, thanks!!

Has worked well on my searches (single term) - very good, thanks !

Can I suggest the output contains the poster name and date?

Liking the search capability thanks and is working well for my searches

Two more suggestions - given that the search is working well.

- could it be extended to search 'all my watched threads'
- but maybe with an optional date range so new hamsters aren't needed.

1. Returning results in date order - doesn't seem to be working quite right.
As an extreme silly example I searched the Coronavirus thread for the word "the" - first result on page 1 ( and the first post as you'd expect ), second result on page 858, and every subsequent one up to the 40th in the 850's, but jumping up and down a bit.

2. If there are more than 40 results, can there be an indication that not all results have been returned ? And ideally, a Next button to show the next 40, etc

3. Like the above suggestion to be able to search all your watched threads, useful if you've read something somewhere but can't remember on which thread, but not as resource intensive as searching all threads.

4. Could you consider a future enhancement to have a second search criteria of author, as well as search term, would help narrow down a search when you remember who posted it

Love it, but I did suggest it so I have to say that. Thanks Fetch.
If only I could remember what I was looking for when I felt the need to suggest it...
Searching for Carrot in the baking thread, brought back plenty of Carrot Cake goodness so that’ll keep me happy whilst I ponder what I really wanted to find out. Something to do with WSW...

Something to do with POSE running, shurely?!

Your Mam is very proud of her garden, the pond your Dad put in is brilliant, I hope wherever they move to they can still enjoy a nice garden.

I've shared one already, looks great!

That's an incredibly fast run. Mr Kipchoge will be properly worried. I don't think much of your bike ride though.

Fab garden! Sharing graphic looks good.

I have craft room envy. And garden envy.

Oh those graphics are very good. Nice work, and I completely agree about it helping to promote the site. Share ahoy!

May I suggest the cycling is adapted to show mph instead of mins per mile

Info graphic is great but I agree with Corona that the cycling should be in mph/kph

Nice house

I love the house. Bargoed is a little far to commute though.

Another vote for mph on the cycling

Who nails curtains?!

We only realised when we tried to close them on our first evening.

Sharing graphics are good, though I would also add a logo in the bottom right for run or ride!

Oh my goodness, I could be seriously tempted by that house. It's even near family!

Love the graphics! I'm starting to learn about messing around with data in Python...loads of fun.

Like the graphic. Agree on the speed units. I don't use twitter and rarely post on Facebook. Might share on WhatsApp or even on that thing that people usually print strikethrough!

There's lovely! Good luck to Mam and Dad Fetch for a troublefree move. They've done a fab job on the house and garden!
I will have to run a bit faster before I dare share anything but when I do it'll look great

Nice graphic 😀 Question though. Can it be overlayed on the route map?

I seem to only be able share on FB and Twitter. I want to share on WhatsApp. Is it me?

The only time I really share runs on social media is when I want to share a photo I have taken. No one is interested in my mediocre pace! Could we have a choice between the new graphic or old one with photos?

Are you sure there's not a welsh welsh word for 'telegraph pole with a street light, road sign and various assorted wiry cable things attached' ?

I assume this one hit a nerve for you? But it's OK now you've 'proved' the pole had a lamp as well.

What next? Describing the position of goalkeeper as “going in goals”? It is singular to non-Welsh people... You “Go in goal”...

Surely more of a multipurpose pole then?

surely thats a telegraph pole with a lamp stuck on it.

Sigh has also blogged on the subject - I've asked for clarification

I can't do this, I have teied, because the road I first grew up in, NW6 in that there London, no longer exists, so I am trawling websites, with old photos.

tried!

Yes, that's an 11kV overhead power cable, which is feeding both the pole mounted light and also the properties. I've just blogged in support of your statements

A lit telegraph pole?

it's not a telegraph pole as it's not carrying any phone lines. The diameter of those cables is too big for phone lines, they're 11kV power cables.

Well it's an old installation, probably going back to when both the GPO and Electricity boards were state owned, so it's possible it's a combined use column/pole: but phone lines won't provide electricity to a pole mounted street light.

I’m voting for it being low voltage too. 😁 Can’t argue with it being a post with a lamp (when does a post become a pole?)

When it's a rod or a perch ...

I know not of this lamp post controversy about which you write

4 years ago I wrote a comment about lamp posts on one of GlennR's blogs fetcheveryone.com/blog/14622/2016/7#blog354616 There could have been no confusion about whether the posts I mentioned were power or lamp posts, even although they were very old installations - because they were gas lamps!

I wrote
"I remember when I was a young child living in London, and the lamplighter coming along at dusk to light the street gas lamps. He'd prop his ladder up against the horizontal bars at the top of the lamp post, climb up and ignite the gas. Then he'd be back at dawn to extinguish them."

I grew up on a very similar Welsh street - it's a lampost from me!

Nowt are queer as a telegraph pole with a lamp on it

*as*

That’s not a lamppost, it’s a pole with a lamp on it.

What’s it made of? If it’s a wooden pole I’m going telegraph pole. If it’s concrete I might concede lamp post...

How do we know it was there in your day? Unless google is a Yorkshire signlamppole erector from the 50's.

*that also did business in Wales.

They look like ABC's to me (aerial bundled cables): en.wikipedia.org , which we had to replace around the Newcastle-under-Lyme area in 2003-04 as part of a wholesale street lighting upgrade for the county council.

It's a multi purpose pole with telephone wires and lamp. No wonder naming confusion. You can call that a lamp post. BT wooden pole with phone lines only though - that's just a telegraph pole. Imho. Oh the fun! G